Storyline Saga

[Seth Wade]

So a good character would need to make a choice between the government and the revolutionaries?

[Alexander Trafford]

Stop thinking of this in terms of alignment, there is no "evil" faction trying to take over the world and spread suffering and hate, with a goal of subjugation. And there is no "good" faction that just wants peace, love, harmony and freedom.

Each faction believes they are the instruments of good and that they are the faction best suited to bring order, the only difference is how they are going about achieving their goals. There is no good and there is no evil, there is good and evil in each faction. You could be a ninja/assassin with the best of intentions, and join the Assassin faction because it fits your character perfectly. So, rather than trying to patch yourself in with an alignment, try to figure how your character's style and personality. Do they believe in the status quo, patience, devotion, law and order? maybe they should be in the Government faction, regardless of alignment. Are they recklessly bent on change? Does your character believe a revolution is for the betterment of society? Are they not reliant on the rule of law? Perhaps you are a revolutionary. Does your character live in the shadows, and prefer death-strike sneak attacks, assassinations and theft as a means to an end rather than frontal combat? Perhaps your an Assassin.

It's not about alignment. Just because your good doesn't mean your limited to government, or government and revolutionaries.

Each faction craves power, from what i understand, and that doesn't make them good or evil or neutral, the only thing that separates them is the means to their end.

[Kaden]

Being "gray" is fine, and sometimes works out for the best, but that's not what everyone wants to do. Sometimes forcing a character into a shade of gray is just as detrimental as forcing a character to be black or white.

Saying "ignore alignment" is just as pointless as saying "you have to be good or evil."

[Alexander Trafford]

how is not focusing on alignment forcing anyone into gray? Any of the three factions can be seen as good or evil, do whatever you want. that's all i'm saying.

[Juno]

Alex is exactly right, although like Kaden said, I wouldn't "ignore alignment" -- just use it creatively to fit your character into the puzzle.

[Lightning Claw]

I agree that you cant just divide the world into neat stacks of "good" and "evil" all of the time(although it is possible sometimes). Take my charachter for example. He is about as good as it gets, but he is far from perfect. Envy, anger and hate are still within his emotional range, even if he has the best of intentions. Because he would not want to kill anyone, he would clearly not join the assassins, believeing them to be clearly in the wrong, but what about the other factions? Who is more noble, the government who wishes to uphold its own power and maintain some semblance of order? Perhaps not, because they have failed in the past and are unwilling to share their power. So that leaves us with the revolutionaries, the plucky underdogs fighting for peace, justice, and happiness for all. Or is that really their goal? Attacking the government during such a major crisis is far from heroic, and what of their mysteious leader? Surely se would not be so mysterious if she didn't have something to hide.
So is it best to stay independant, trying to help the innocent when you can and staying out of the way of the major factions? It might sound like a good idea on the surface, but while you may promote good on a smaller scale it would not be contributing to peace and prosperity in the long run.
My oint is there is quite a bit of mora ambiguity here, no one is clearly right or wrong, it just depends on your point of view.

[Sigfried Hunin]

I think that Gozen might swing through on his own terms, not necessarily on any one side but rather attaining his own means through the activities of the three conflicting parties.

[Mikhail]

I'm in. Not entirely sure how my character will develop since he has no idea of his saiyan heritage. Right now it looks like i'll be siding with the revolutionaries.

And it sounds like The Government and The Revolutionaries view themselves as good and The Assassins view themselves as the 'Opportunists'.

[Vad]

By what your describing Juno, would the government take action and attack the Revolutionaries and Assassins if need be?

I need to know if where Vad is going to sit within the Government is going to work. I plan to have Central City use the leverage against his wife to control his actions and defend them (IE: Making him fight for the Government.)

Would there be any conflict with that?

[Seth Wade]

I've pretty much already figured out that Griffith doesn't belong with the assassins, thus my question to clarify things and make my decision a bit easier. I appreciate the 'advice.'

[Juno]

I'm going to have to let you guys know that while indepdency is fine for the first little while, eventually you'll be forced to pick a side.

The Government and the Revolutionaries don't neccessarily view themselves as good. They know that they want the Greater Good. There's a difference.

And Vad, that'd be perfectly fine. Markys himself probably wouldn't condone that type of blackmail, but his advisors most certainly would. Go for it.

[Kazuya]

Thanks for the update for Apocolypse Later, Juno. I can work something off that, that's what i've been waiting on

[Juno]

You're welcome, Vi.

[Kazuya]

I would love to work with the Shadow Walkers, I really feel that that is the path Kaz is going, and with her stealth, it'd be a shame NOT to do something with them. with your permission, and notes and special wishes, I'd like to work with building up that faction.

[Juno]

Absolutely. Go ahead.

[Sigfried Hunin]

We should start a little thread that lists everybody's alignment after all is said and done.

Gozen will start out independent and depending on who gets in his way will determine his alignment.

If Vad is working for the Government, he'll probably end up on either the revolutionaries or the assassins, as his personal mission is to bring peace to the restless souls who lost their lives in a conflict that wasn't their own.

Is this acceptable?

[Juno]

If you're looking for peace, I'd say go with the Assassins. But it's your choice.

And I'd say that a new thread isn't a BAD idea. We can still use this to discuss mechanics, but people can, like, sign up and stuff in the other one. I'll get it up in the next twenty or so minutes.

[Vad]

Which side, the Revolutionaries or Assassins wants the government cleaned out? Vad wants to slay everyone who black mailed him; so according to Juno, the mayor's advisor's.

[Juno]

The Revolutionaries want the government wiped out. The Assassins want both of them wiped out.

EDIT: And we've got three story guides and I think I'll cap it at that. Ladies and gentlemen, your story guides are JUNO; PIPER JUUNANAGOU; and SZAR.

[Jack]

SZAR?

I'll fix him!!