06-25-2009, 08:40 PM
@Belle
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Something something more than meets the eye, something something robots in disguise
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06-25-2009, 09:54 PM
Bil Baer Jaxx Wrote:I like how he was the only Transformer to die in the first movie. I admit, I laughed there. It followed the horror movie rule of "The black guy always dies first". He was the "token black bot"? Belle: Yeah, stereotypes suck at times. People shouldn't be made fun of at their dumbest, which is why I think we should start a civil war over the Dukes of Hazzard movie exaggerating the hell out of their southern stereotypes. Who cares if they were just having a blast in the movie repeatedly going "dat sumbitch!", some upstanding southern gentleman who is chewing his tobacco and flips channels while watching NASCAR might get severely offended at the portrayal. Wait, its ok because southern white American males are "not a minority"? OH THEN LETS GET TO HANGING. What about anything made by the Wayans? A hip hop baby can leap out (possibly with a grill) and start dancing while a woman shows up at her high school with her baby and shoves it in a locker, etc etc. Pretty much every black stereotype there is. But that's ok because the director is black and thus its not wrong, but only if we know that little bit of information? Dane Cook - "Its ok, I'm not racist, I have a black president."
06-25-2009, 10:11 PM
er, isn't every character in every movie ever made based on some sort of broad generalization? i thought that was the point :[
06-25-2009, 10:37 PM
Rod Hardwood Wrote:er, isn't every character in every movie ever made based on some sort of broad generalization? i thought that was the point :[ Essentially, yeah. Movies tend to abuse stereotypes for the sake of humor, and in some cases its considered innocent while in others its considered malicious. On this note, I'm looking forward to Bruno.
06-25-2009, 10:45 PM
I'm ambivalent towards Bruno, though I'll probably end up seeing it anyway. I enjoyed Borat just because it was so ridiculous.
I hope Bruno does something new, though. While I liked Borat, I don't want to pay another time just to essentially see the same thing again. (Also, The Final Destination makes me )
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06-25-2009, 11:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNCxvY9lSM4
Ashe Wrote:Essentially, yeah. Movies tend to abuse stereotypes for the sake of humor, and in some cases its considered innocent while in others its considered malicious.no, not just black characters, EVERY character is a stereotype. protagonist is johnny everyman, the antagonist is joe dickhead, the girl is princess helpless, and on and on.
06-26-2009, 12:03 AM
I thought all the characters were based on some stereotype or another. Optimus Prime was the level-headed military captain guy, Ironhide was the brute force guy, etc.
Quote: "for a quarter million a year growing weed, i'd fucking be gay. with dick on the side." - Laura, on mairjuana
06-26-2009, 12:04 AM
Those are just archetypes more than stereotypes.
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06-26-2009, 12:11 AM
Yeah that's what I meant.
In movies, stereotypes become archetypes anyway. Part of being a gang member in an LA crime drama is, unfortunately, being Mexican. Or black. Put Sean Penn as the head of a street gang and you'll just look retarded. Quote: "for a quarter million a year growing weed, i'd fucking be gay. with dick on the side." - Laura, on mairjuana
06-26-2009, 12:57 AM
Bil Baer Jaxx Wrote:Yeah that's what I meant. fixed
06-26-2009, 01:07 AM
No... now you've gone too far. Sean Penn is the fucking man and you'd better recognize.
Quote: "for a quarter million a year growing weed, i'd fucking be gay. with dick on the side." - Laura, on mairjuana
06-26-2009, 01:54 AM
Kaden Wrote:Those are just archetypes more than stereotypes. martin lawrence was clearly not joe anybody in black knight. that was clearly black hood, which is his (and every other black comedian's) one and only character role in every movie.
06-26-2009, 03:26 AM
Off top. My little cousin won't be seeing this movie at all. A few of my friends were like 'Brian it's a good movie but don't take Dajah to see it at least not until you have another long talk to him about cursing.' so...yeah. *sigh* Going to have to talk to him before I take him to see this though I doubt I'll do it even then. Yeah, nah.
06-26-2009, 03:57 AM
What are you, Mormon?
Quote: "for a quarter million a year growing weed, i'd fucking be gay. with dick on the side." - Laura, on mairjuana
06-26-2009, 04:20 AM
Bil Baer Jaxx Wrote:What are you, Mormon? I don't think that just because someone doesn't think their 6-year-old should run around yelling "What's crackin little bitches?!?!?" doesn't mean they are Mormon. I don't appreciate your use of Mormon archetypes.
06-26-2009, 04:31 AM
Movie not for kid.
Don't take kid to movie. srsly I is not rocket scientist. ![]()
06-26-2009, 06:13 AM
Sage Wrote:Movie not for kid. XD
06-26-2009, 11:59 AM
Ok skipping it all in case of spoils.
Consensus? Good, bad? Worth $20 bucks a ticket? My bf hadn't seen the first one so we just watched it, so wondering if we should see this one on the big screen. ![]() DA08 Winner. "Screw them, this was her show now."
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