The Fighting Thread

[Jack]

Why the fuck don't we have one.

First, I'll just leave this here: http://thisis50.com/profiles/blogs/ufcs-...ge-jackson

Second, I've been getting into UFC lately. It's like pro wrestling, only without the acting, the script, and a lot more pain. It's like boxing, only you can use your legs and there are no homo gloves. Boxing is still cool though, I enjoy it more... but I digress.

I'm sort of a newb to this, so I need you guys (that's right, you) to recommend me some fights to watch. I have 97(?) on my comp right now, with Lesnar and that other guy, and before that I watched 101.

PS: That black referee guy is a complete idiot, I can't recall his name right now unfortunately.

[Psyren]

Go back and find some of the ufc fights involving, Tito ortiz vs ken shamrock. They are hillarious to watch. Tito decimates him in more than a few. Lesnar fights are intresting to say the least its enjoyable to see a pro wrestler make the transition to real fighting. Silva is another good one to watch and as far as chuck lidel goes i think hes highly overrated.lol I actually spent about a year and a half doing mma and i have a new respect for those guys i had a record of like 16 and 9 and had to do a super early retirment because both of my knees got blown out. Sucked horrbly I was making like 200 a fight just because i lost and upwards of 500 for winning. It wasent well put together I remember several fights gainst uys weigh above my weight limit.

[Cain]

Mike Tyson is a monster.

If anyone finds tournament videos of Bruce Lee, freaking post them.

Sorry to steer the UFC thread aside. But these two things are also great examples of fighting.

[Jack]

This is now The Fighting Thread.

My favorite boxer was Rocky Marciano. He had the power of the Sonny Liston and George Foreman, but could actually move around.

[Kazuya]

PS: That black referee guy is a complete idiot, I can't recall his name right now unfortunately.

Herb Dean? Reb makes fun of him all the time when he played UFC unleashed. Keke

[Jack]

His name is like Magliatta or something. Actually I guess he's not black. But he's big and brown.

[Vad]

This is now The Fighting Thread.

It's official. <3

[Jesper]

Watch BJ Penn vs. Caol Uno if you can find it. It's not a great fight (it only lasted about 11 seconds) but it was funny as hell.

Also, if you get Spike TV, tune in from time to time. They show old UFC fights every now and then.

[Psyren]

Tito and his wife Jenna Jameson

[Rem-13]

Every time I try and watch a UFC or MMA match its always sweaty guys hugging and kneeing each other in the balls.

[Celena]

Wow, didn't know Tito was married to a former pornstar.

[Saz]

George St Pierres VS BJ Penn

Silva VS anyone

I used to watch loads of old UFC matches, but Bravo stopped showing them so I kinda just stopped caring. I should look up some matches online. Have there been any big name fights in the last year or so?

[Kami]

I've only seen brief clips but there is a guy called Bob The Beast who did some K-1 fighting I believe, kick boxing, and he's gigantic.

[Pinky]

Instead of single fights, it's better to watch a fighter's entire career. You get to see how they develop from one match to the next. You kinda want to avoid UFC heavyweights, they have some decent match-ups here and there but overall they tend to be the least competitive weight class. (might have something to do with the 60lbs weight variable)

You should also know that the fighting may look chaotic at first, but it's really very simple. All combat can be defined by three aspects: striking, grappling, or submissions. Back in the early days of MMA the fighters were all one-dimensional, and it was just a clash of styles. Now every fighter in the top 5 of every weight division (except maybe heavyweights) are expected to be able to win with at least two of the three, and be proficient enough to defend against all three. The real differences in performance are seen not just in a fighter's ability to use any given aspect, but also to transition between them. This is a principle that Bruce Lee promoted, and you can clearly see the template of modern MMA in the opening scene to Enter the Dragon. I'll just list the most obvious names you should familiarize yourself with, wiki pages have their career history, and you can go search for fights on youtube or something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Griffin
Like a lot of people, the Bonnar vs. Griffin match in 2005 was the time when I got into the sport. The heir apparent to Couture's legacy, not that great of a fighter, more of a "hard worker" than a "genius" type, but fun to watch nonetheless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyoto_Machida
Currently my favorite fighter, Lyoto Machida. Some used to call him boring because he specializes in evasion and has the patience of a 70 year old man, but that's just smart fighting. The only Karate specialist to see real success in the UFC, he is okay at grappling and submissions, current title holder in UFC's light heavyweight division, and currently the only title holder to have a flawless MMA career.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_Silva
Anderson Silva has been considered the top pound-for-pound fighter for years, undefeated in the UFC, and title holder of UFC middleweight division for several years. A classic example of a fighting genius, his fights are like how-to MMA demonstrations. He will be retiring when his UFC contract expires.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.J._Penn
Youngest person to ever get a blackbelt in BJJ (at age 16), kinda crazy and a jerk, he is the current lightweight title holder. Another fighting genius, a real contender for the #1 p4p honorary. Back when Matt Hughes used to be the undefeated UFC welterweight title holder (division above lightweight), BJ Penn went up and took the title from him simply because he wanted it. Almost all of his loses come from decisions or his utter lack of physical conditioning, although he's spent the last few years changing that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_St-Pierre
Another "hard worker", he's had a pretty stellar career in the UFC. However, this is tinged by the fact that he's much bigger than almost all of his opponents. He is very skilled, however, as he trains with a number of top-level fighters from various weight divisions as well as various Olympic teams, plus he trains all year every year rather than simply training for specific fights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Couture
Legendary hall of famer, multi-division, multi-time champion. He's come out of retirement twice and gone on to win titles both times. Probably the nicest guy to ever pound another man unconscious for money, I recommend not just his fights but also his interviews. Started as a Greco-Roman wrestling specialist and is considered the godfather of ground and pound, was one of the first prominent fighters to learn other aspects of fighting well enough to contend with other top-level strikers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderlei_Silva
Wanderlei was a really big name back when PrideFC was still competitive. However, UFC fighters perfected the art of weight-cutting, so natural heavyweights now fight as light heavyweights, natural light heavyweights fight as middleweights, and so on, which puts him at a size disadvantage. His victories are generally KO's and ref stoppages, and he owns some of the most spectacular knock outs ever caught on film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Arlovski
Andre was one of the only heavyweights I respected in the UFC, I was sad to see him go to Affliction. Master of Sambo fighting, which itself is a crazy gotdang sport. The only fighter in the UFC that really had his number of Tim "The Jab" Silvia, who beat him twice. There's an unwritten rule in the UFC, which is best-of-three, and then those fighters simply don't fight each other again. Once Tim beat Andre for the second time it pretty much locked Andre out of title contention for as long as Tim held the title. It was during that time that he decided to move on to other sporting circuits.

Between all of those fighters you should run into nearly every other important name in MMA.

[Vad]

How old are you, Rod?

[Psyren]

Quit giveing detailed information. It makes you seem like you have a superiority complex XD

[Rem-13]

Hush now, Rod is actually being useful.

[Vad]

Hush now, Rod is actually being useful.

That's what I mean. He explains everything he believes like he has a fucking PHD. It's amazing.

[Psyren]

But hes not being useful, hes being a internet dictonary I swear to god he is Google! or some retarded cousin of wikipedia XD

[Charles 4]

Fedor Emelianenko should also be required reading. His record is 30 wins 1 loss and one win by no contest. (30-1-0 1NC) His nickname is The Last Emporer. The one loss was the fourth fight in his career and was a questionable decision. He is a beast. Some say he is unbeatable (by skill) and seems to be so. He is also pretty hilarious in interview. (unintentionally)

Also, to add to something to Rod's post: Forest Griffin is also probably the funniest guy in MMA.