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I'm not really sure about the 'for kids' arguement. I mean, yeah, obviously your not going to see Dora giving a sermon at a funeral because her friend Boots got hit by a fruit-picking truck, but then again you might see Death explored in a story like the Secrets of NiMH. Mrs. Brisby, the main protagonist, is a widow. She and her entire family have to deal with the loss of her husband, and while it's not heavily explored it's there. Heck, even Harry Potter's 1st book, the lightest book in terms of tone in the series, explores the ramifications of death and loss in the form of Harry's murdered parents.
I think in all honesty it's just lazy, cruddy writing at the reader's expense. They want to do a story about death because it sells, but they don't want to fully explore the consequences of that death because lets be honest death is permanent.
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Dr. Cringle Wrote:I'm not really sure about the 'for kids' arguement. I mean, yeah, obviously your not going to see Dora giving a sermon at a funeral because her friend Boots got hit by a fruit-picking truck, but then again you might see Death explored in a story like the Secrets of NiMH. Mrs. Brisby, the main protagonist, is a widow. She and her entire family have to deal with the loss of her husband, and while it's not heavily explored it's there. Heck, even Harry Potter's 1st book, the lightest book in terms of tone in the series, explores the ramifications of death and loss in the form of Harry's murdered parents.
I think in all honesty it's just lazy, cruddy writing at the reader's expense. They want to do a story about death because it sells, but they don't want to fully explore the consequences of that death because lets be honest death is permanent. Did you see the second Secret of NiMH? That whole death thing was spun pretty damn quick out of focus. Also I'd like to point out that there's no real bond in between all these examples and the viewer/reader. The people who reads The Fantastic Four must be pretty attached to the Human Torch right about now.
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Zex Wrote:Like- after trying netflix for a month i have decided to keep my 8 dollar a month streaming package its all i need honestly. But now im considering also trying out game fly. Was curious if any of you guys use game fly?
Reb does. its not too bad, but the more games you get out at a time the m ore expensive it is. Best to go with maybe 2 games out at a time. They get here pretty quick.
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Leo Wrote:Did you see the second Secret of NiMH? That whole death thing was spun pretty damn quick out of focus. Also I'd like to point out that there's no real bond in between all these examples and the viewer/reader. The people who reads The Fantastic Four must be pretty attached to the Human Torch right about now.
The second secret of NIHM was made with very little to no input from the original creative team from the first NIHM. It was a very different affair from the original, and some say that was to the sequel's detriment.
Regardless, my point wasn't about whether or not the death matters to the readers, but the comic book industry's track record of nulling the death in a contrived or poorly written manner. It makes the decision of the death in the first place seem like a decision to cash in on a reader's emotional investment, not a creatively-driven decision. Maybe that not the comic book author's intent, but the higher muckey muck's might not be inclined to agree.
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Hate: Loose Women. Bad move Sky for sacking Andy Gray and Martin Tyler.
Does honesty earn respect or inspire revenge? Is it smarter to attack the strong or annihilate the weak?
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wtf, there was a sequel to The Secret of NIMH?
(Favorite film ever, btw. Seriously. My single favorite film.)
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Celena Wrote:Hate: Loose Women. Bad move Sky for sacking Andy Gray and Martin Tyler.
What happened on Loose Women? I bet they were having a field day over this farce.
Ugh, I'll miss Andy Gray, he's one of my favourite football pundits. This whole thing reminds me of the Sach-gate scandal, just people overreacting and blowing something way out of proportion.
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Saz Wrote:What happened on Loose Women? I bet they were having a field day over this farce.
Ugh, I'll miss Andy Gray, he's one of my favourite football pundits. This whole thing reminds me of the Sach-gate scandal, just people overreacting and blowing something way out of proportion.
Definitely a shame. If he was an American footballer, or commentator, he'd get a pat on the back.
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Jonathan Meer Wrote:wtf, there was a sequel to The Secret of NIMH?
(Favorite film ever, btw. Seriously. My single favorite film.)
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Jonathan Meer Wrote:wtf, there was a sequel to The Secret of NIMH?
(Favorite film ever, btw. Seriously. My single favorite film.) Don't watch it then unless you want your childhood to be butchered.
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Yeah. That looks like shit.
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Jonathan Meer Wrote:Yeah. That looks like shit.
What're you talking about? That looks Boss. B-O-S-S, Rick-Ross-Boss.
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like: internet douchebags. they make the information super highway entertaining. all secure in their parent's basements pretending to be something they're not...woo.
hate: internet douchebags. i want to punch them but don't know where they live
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9MD3vqvMa0
7:00 in, i've played with foxisquick before. not ssf4, but other games :E
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Like: Apparently my mom went to high school with Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Graduated with him in fact. They called him JD.
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Lovin' Ghost Trick right now.
Fun game true story.
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