Champions

[John Doe]

Too bad I own all the champs they keep reducing.

[Piper Juunanagou]

Yea, I owe most of the champs they have reduced.

Except Jax and Taric, both of which I like.

[Jonathan Meer]

I keep playing easy, mindless champions (Ashe, Ryze, Rammus, Soraka). I want to play someone who takes a good long time to master, understand, and utilize. Recommendations?

And yeah. I realize this is kinda like the 'who should i play' thread, but w/e

[Rafael]

Trundle. I seriously want there to be a college class on how to use that guy. I understand he's not useless and yet, when I play him, clicking doesn't happen. I've seen good trundle, but... really though any jungle might be a good change of pace and learning for ya.

[Jonathan Meer]

I do want to do that. Gotta save up for runes first though.

[Jarka]

I keep playing easy, mindless champions (Ashe, Ryze, Rammus, Soraka). I want to play someone who takes a good long time to master, understand, and utilize. Recommendations?

And yeah. I realize this is kinda like the 'who should i play' thread, but w/e

Anivia/Heimerdinger. Both of them have a targeted ability (since those are stupid cheap and easy to use (well, Heimer's micro rockets target for you)), and the rest are skillshot/timing abilities. IN FACT, their targeted abilities all have a decent amount of strategy to them, with Anivia's chilling and Heimer's rockets hitting the closest three targets.

They're also the sort of champ that you can always improve on little things (wall/turret placement, etc).

[Kaden]

I keep playing easy, mindless champions (Ashe, Ryze, Rammus, Soraka). I want to play someone who takes a good long time to master, understand, and utilize. Recommendations?

And yeah. I realize this is kinda like the 'who should i play' thread, but w/e

Cassiopeia, Nidalee, and Orianna have the highest skill caps, in my opinion.

Understanding how their skills work is not really all that hard, but there is a ton of depth to their utility and effectiveness.

[Jonathan Meer]

Hum. Might do Cass. I hear she's up, though.

[John Doe]

Apparently, she's really strong now that people know how to use her. I still haven't seen a good one yet.

[Kaden]

Hum. Might do Cass. I hear she's up, though.

She's not. The reason people don't play her is because she's simply not as efficient to play as other champions. If you look at her compared to someone like Annie, she puts out similar damage but much more conditionally than Annie does.

She's widely acknowledge as one of the best laners in game, even by people who say UP. Why take someone who has a stun when other people are facing her vs someone who just always has a stun?

[Rafael]

Agreed. Cass is godlike in lane phase if you are good at landing hits but, as above, Annie is just easier to play and much better in teamfights.

Oh, another suggestify: Kennen. his damage is pretty weak early on, but he's loads of fun as I've mentioned before and amazing in teamfights, like, gg good if you get good at double stunning whole teams

[Kaden]

Agreed. Cass is godlike in lane phase if you are good at landing hits but, as above, Annie is just easier to play and much better in teamfights.

Cass actually does significantly more in a teamfight. Annie can AoE burst twice and then has to wait 8 seconds before another AoE is up. Cass can AoE DPS every 3 seconds along with an increasingly large AoE DPS/Slow and has a single target nuke every .75 seconds (or whatever it is on her E). In every possible metric, Cass out damages in an AoE or in a single-target nuke over a set period of time.

The difference, again, ends up being the effort required to do so. Annie has no combos that affect her damage. Just cooldowns.

[Rafael]

Talon=sweet. Only played a bot game, but he seems pretty fun, if given the usual assassin vulnerabilities. <3 his ult.

[Kaden]

His ult is retarded. Such a low CD and so much AoE damage.

[Rafael]

;D

Anyway, yeah, it's pretty strong and a hilarious way to kill someone who's about to get away.

[John Doe]

His ult is retarded. Such a low CD and so much AoE damage.

At one point, Kaden said each blade did over 300 damage. And he has like, 8 blades. On a 35 second cooldown. Not even 30 minutes into the game. Fuck the what?

[Rafael]

it only does damage twice though, they didn't actually bring over the "more damage for more blades" deal. Hit with one both ways, max damage

[Kaden]

it only does damage twice though, they didn't actually bring over the "more damage for more blades" deal. Hit with one both ways, max damage

Ok good. I must have misread the tooltip. It's still a lot of damage.

[Jonathan Meer]

God, Akali. So over-the-top strong. I can't seem to lose as her. That shroud is lololol

EDIT: Why doesn't she see more playtime?

[Rafael]

I see tons of her actually. Not quite as much as Morde or Trynd, but she's a pretty common opponent of mine

Also, today I try: DPS Karma. Flee while you can folks