Nubbe Centre

[John Doe]

I'm a fan of spells that are not useless.

kthxbai

[Jack]

Can you read.

[Mal Nova]

DONT.

FUCKING.

CHASE.

This will probably be something that I will ignore even if not on purpose>_>

[Jack]

Honestly, this is something I still have trouble with. I don't really "chase" anymore, but I still don't know how close I can get to the action without getting fucked. There's 80 champions to learn now, there were only like 30 when I started. I'm trying mah bess.

But straight up chasing, the act of leaving your minions and your teammates behind, having the idea in your head that you are invincible and "got dat shit in da bag", is stupid. There is no excuse.

[Jack]

So, how strong is Gangplank? Too strong. Support GP played in the CLG vs RS match today. With just that buff from GP and his Q harass(with no items other than gp/5) letting Cait farm, RS absolutely dominated bot lane.

...what?

[Orion]

Exhaust people. At least one person on your team should have Exhaust. More is preferable.

[Mal Nova]

So, a few question involving, Tear of Goddess and Archangels Staff.

If I got the 1k from ToG, would I also be able to get the other 1k from Archangels to total 2k? I know it's UNIQUE Passive so it might not be able to, but i wanna know=D

I know it's UNIQUE passive as well, but what happens if I got 2 ToG's at the same time. Could each one give me the max mana bonus each time, as in every time I use an ability each one would give me the +4 max mana(Meaning 8 each time) until I reached the 1k?

And I think it's FUCKING gay that Ashe doesn't get to benefit it with her Q. I tried>_><_< lol I know it would be OP, but still. Ashe would really be a beast then...

[Jonathan Meer]

Don't get ToG on Ashe. It's a waste.

Don't get AP items on Ashe. It's a waste. It can be fucking hilarious, but it's not anything you'd want to do if you're trying to, like, win. Tear of the Goddess is not an AP item, but since it only builds into an AP item, you should treat it as an AP item in your head.

DO build ToG on Ryze (dunno if you're still on the ryze wagon or not). It's absurd on him. The very first item you should build, before boots.

If you build ToG into Archangel's, the passive carries over. You can only get a max of 1k mana. Whatever bonus mana you got from ToG carries over.

Because it's UNIQUE, only one works. Two is a waste.

[Kaden]

Don't get AP items on Ashe. It's a waste. It can be fucking hilarious, but it's not anything you'd want to do if you're trying to, like, win. Tear of the Goddess is not an AP item, but since it only builds into an AP item, you should treat it as an AP item in your head.

Manamune.

Still wouldn't get it on Ashe, but there is an AD option.

EDIT: So, basically, no matter how many or what combinations of Manamune, Archangel's Staff, or Tear of the Goddess you have, you can't get more than a bonus 1000 MP from them.

[Jonathan Meer]

Forgot about manamune

[Kole T. Merr]

Because it's UNIQUE, only one works. Two is a waste.

Actually no. Because of the Archangel's OTHER passive, where 3% of your mana is converted to AP, it's actually kind of hilarious to build 5 of them and a Deathcap. This will leave you incredibly squishy, though.

[Jonathan Meer]

I never knew about that second passive. Holy shit.

[Kole T. Merr]

I never knew about that second passive. Holy shit.

Reading is op man.

[Jonathan Meer]

Only chara I ever consider Archangel's on is Ryze, and I never get to the point of building it on him.

[John Doe]

Sona's a good pick for it, since she just spams her spells at every opportunity, needs the mana, and is AP. Karthus isn't a terrible pick for it either, since he spams Q and his E eats mana like John Goodman. There's probably more that would work, but I haven't eaten yet and I need to.

[Kaden]

There are a handful of champs that AA is good for.

I actually hate it on Ryze.

[Jonathan Meer]

You build ToG into manamune then?

[Kaden]

Yeah.

[John Doe]

Why?

[Kaden]

His AP ratios are awful. So bad, in fact, that throwing 2~3 auto-attacks during the course of a fight, if you get Manamune instead of AA, you end up doing more damage.

Also, since it would be your only real AP item, you'll do no damage to structures, whereas the AD would actually let you split push or backdoor something.