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#3,481
11-04-2012, 06:07 PM
Trygelan Wrote:Cause of my Taric carrying you through that AP jungle Yi... Oh god AP jungle Yi... I still don't know what the hell he was thinking? Or how the hell he was higher rated than us....

Taric too strong. I seriously think he's the best support in the game right now.

And yeah... AP Jungle Yi. Don't know why I didn't think of it.
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11-04-2012, 06:57 PM
Better then Nunu?
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11-04-2012, 07:39 PM (This post was last modified: 11-04-2012, 08:05 PM by Kaden.)
Yes and no (mostly yes, tho, tbh). In a vacuum, yeah, I think Taric is a lot better. His kit is just incredibly well-rounded.

Nunu shifts attack speed in-lane by insane amounts. It's like a 40% AS slow and a 30% AS buff or something like that. A shift of 70~80% AS can easily crush a lane. Being able to keep himself topped off on HP is also pretty helpful.

What Nunu doesn't really do, though, is make plays. Taric stun can be so huge in enabling... everything. While he doesn't buff AS, being able to buff damage to the whole team (and minions, which is very relevant) is almost always just better.

Nunu is also a lot easier to punish, as a pick. He brings no sustain to his lane, gets pretty punished by poke, and the adc can run something like Caitlyn or Trist and his buff gives basically no advantage in lane (still pretty terror in the rest of the game, but no more so than stun/AoE dmg buff).

Nunu's ult is kind a trap, too. Good players know to use it as a zoning tool. Support Nunu's ult does pretty mediocre damage and a lot of people will overextend into an enemy team to try and hit as many people as possible instead of using it to zone for the ADC and AP. That's less on the champion and more the player, but still a factor, imo.

There are also just a bunch of lanes that Taric can counter. There are basically no lanes that Nunu counters that Taric doesn't counter better.
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11-04-2012, 07:48 PM
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11-04-2012, 08:11 PM
Tyr Wrote:It's always that one game where you friend spectates where your keyboard and mouse spontaneously explodes.

I think Tryg was Taric tooooooooooooooooo lol
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11-05-2012, 12:23 AM
Mal Nova Wrote:I think Tryg was Taric tooooooooooooooooo lol

That's one of the main problems, when I duo with kaaden I'm last pick most of the time which ends with me being support... and I seriously suck as support. It's not that i don't know what the champs do, or how to play/ward properly, I am just way too aggressive of a player to be support. It's very hard for me to get out of that mindset.
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11-05-2012, 04:31 AM
There's a reason I only ever willingly support for Trygelan- I tend to be a very agressive support as well and Tryg's willingness to be an agressive adc meshes well with that.

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11-05-2012, 05:11 AM
Lol well Technically... Kaden and Tryg slightly won their lane but the other lanes sucked and those two didn't get that far ahead to Carry.
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11-05-2012, 07:04 AM
I think season 3 I'm gonna actually try and do ranked more than normals. Just need to pick mains
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11-05-2012, 07:59 AM
Mal Nova Wrote:Lol well Technically... Kaden and Tryg slightly won their lane but the other lanes sucked and those two didn't get that far ahead to Carry.

Yeah... we probably did better than any of our other lanes, but that's doesn't mean a whole lot.

I love it when I can be aggressive in lane. Really that's why I like playing Cait, Trist and Ez. They have tools to be bullies. Actually just got out of a game with Cait/Nunu against their Ez/Janna. Bullied the shit out of them. I didn't get much out of it because my last hitting is garbage lately, but was still fun.
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11-05-2012, 09:33 AM
Kaden Wrote:Yeah... we probably did better than any of our other lanes, but that's doesn't mean a whole lot.

I love it when I can be aggressive in lane. Really that's why I like playing Cait, Trist and Ez. They have tools to be bullies. Actually just got out of a game with Cait/Nunu against their Ez/Janna. Bullied the shit out of them. I didn't get much out of it because my last hitting is garbage lately, but was still fun.

And yet again I ended up as support (Nunu). WHY MUST I BE LAST PICK WHEN DUO'D WITH KADEN?

Though I did get to go top the next game as Lee Sin and make a Wukong very sad...
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11-05-2012, 03:51 PM
I've started picking up a lot of the cheaper champs I haven't picked up yet like Singed, Warwick et al, and actually not terribly sucking as support with Soraka. I have Taric now so I'm gonna give him a shot given how much love you guys have for him.
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11-06-2012, 03:49 AM (This post was last modified: 11-06-2012, 03:49 AM by Trygelan.)
And I'm gold again. Whew. Thought that last game was going to be a loss for a while there. Got gold as Singed, hell yeah.
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11-06-2012, 04:18 AM
Slackers. I'm PLatinum
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11-11-2012, 02:55 AM
Will someone give me the Mumble info?
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11-12-2012, 02:33 PM
So Spellvamp on Fiddle or no? lol
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11-12-2012, 05:30 PM
Mal Nova Wrote:So Spellvamp on Fiddle or no? lol

I wouldn't. Tanky AP, I'd say. Rylai's, Zhonya's, maybe Abyssal.
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#3,498
11-12-2012, 08:36 PM
Get CDR. His cooldowns are epic.
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11-13-2012, 07:57 PM
We have our frames now. It's pretty cool even if mine is just the silver one.
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11-14-2012, 10:37 PM
Why they gonna get rid of Surge? It was badassed on Jax!!!
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