Irritating..

[Minoshia]

Almost every single member on this forum acts like a complete dumbass or jackass at some time or another, myself included. Handfuls of people here make fun of the n00bs, sometimes myself included, they post dumb conversations and make fun of grammatical errors. Like five people were picking on Ox King last week, unnecessarily, and no one even so much as cared because of who it was that was making said comments.

Then Goku Jr. comes along, notorious for dumb ass shit, I'm not gonna beat around it. In the past He has been notoriously a n00b bullying jackass. No sugarcoating there. But he hasn't posted OOC in a while, hasn't made fun of a n00b in a while and hasn't made a dumb comment in a while. All this lack of GJ stupidity happening when the dumbasses here are making aplenty of stupid uneccasary shit in his place, without being reprimanded whatsoever. But the first fucking thing that he says upon his return, you guys don't even give him a chance. It wasn't even that mean to Panbookin or whoever it was, he didn't even have a problem. yet everyone blows a shit cuz its GJ. You think this place could get any more bullying and hypocritcal? ya let's bash and rip on GJ for saying dumb shit. when every other fucking member gets away with it... I just think it was ridiculous, i know the subject was locked. But i thought i hadda get my opinions said.

[Vegeta]

Threads are locked for a reason. Don't start topics in response to locked threads.

[Minoshia]

I didn't want to say it, but it's true and you know it is. Can't give the guy a second chance can we.

[The Not Cool Not Tapion]

This was more in general than just toward that locked thread, so it seems fine. Though, there could be a lot less cussing to get the point across, but he does make good points but people are people...

[Minoshia]

I know. My main point is just ya that thread he made was uneccesary but come on, did it have to get to a page and a half of jumping all over him before it was locked? then after it was locked some people still took their shots at him, coulda been locked with a little note like "- Posts like this are uneccessary." Or something, and then talked to him on AIM. It was just ridiculous how it got to how it was.

[Bra]

Originally posted by Minoshia
I didn't want to say it, but it's true and you know it is. Can't give the guy a second chance can we.

A... a second chance!? No offense to GJ, but he's well beyond second chances. He's had dozens of chances to shape up. Quite frankly, the animosity that lingers for him was brought upon him by himself.

I mean, shit. I always have to deal with this "Let's treat everyone equally" bullshit. People aren't equal. To treat them equally would, in itself, be unfair. If you don't want people to take shots at you, don't be an idiot.

I get what you're saying, Mino, but I can't possibly agree with that. I have nothing against GJ, and don't believe I've taken any shots at him in ages, but I believe he had it coming. I don't mean to start anything here, but can you honestly tell me he didn't?

But anyway, I don't want to flame-war with you or GJ, so I'll stop here. I hope I didn't step on your toes, Mino, 'cause I didn't mean to. And to you, GJ, I got nothing against you; I was just using the actions you made a long time ago as justification. You could have matured a lot since then, and I haven't made any judgements on the matter.

[Minoshia]

I know what you're saying Bra, and i agree, he's past second chances for some people. But to let that thread get a page and a half before it was locked, and after it was locked some more unnecessary shit was said then too. That could have been handled much better and maybe one or two people saying something would have been okay. Not a dozen.

[Bra]

Yeah, that's true. A massive hate-fest like that was pretty stupid, especially considering he backed off right away.

Didn't quite understand that's the angle you were getting at. =\

[Minoshia]

If you look back in that thread, Krillin handled how he should. Someone should have locked it right after Krillin posted. Pikkon, you speak of knowing what it feels like but you publicly put him down after tons of people had. You know what it feels like, so you put someone else through it? Nice. Wicked immature people like borgos/tottepo or whatever calling him immature, granted it was, but was it necessary to point it out like that. No. Then a staff member, calling GJ pitiful, yea way to lead the site. Thanks for that. Another staff member calling him a goddamn hypocrite, after the thread was locked. And yet another saying he still annoys the shit out of him. And then an entire paragraph completely pointing him out as the village dumbass, by an admin no less. This was all fuckin unnecessary, and I know in this post i crossed lines i should not have crossed, put people and said things that shouldnt have been said, and pointed out things that higher people then me did that was wrong, people that can remove me permanetly from this site. SO I'm sorry for this, but i'm not editing it out. Because it needs to be said, it's wrong, and i believe in what im saying is right.

[Hellfighter 17]

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
~Ghandi d00d

=/

[Banned Dana]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....I remember the times when one curse word would end with you getting warned, so in this case, there should be about 50 warnings...

Simply put...

Warning Offense Major:

If you break one of these rules, it will result in an warning.

Over use of profanity: Do not go overboard with pointless language. We do not encourage members to walk around testing out any new words that you've learned to make your parents mad. Sometimes, it may be appropriate in order to show character or such, but repeated use of F*** about five times a sentence is a bit too much.

It's on the main site...

I do believe that we can be civil about each and every conversation. Though I do believe in equality, if one person breaks that rule and gets banned, what makes the exempt person so special, I'll tell you:

WHAT EVER THE STAFF WANTS, THE STAFF WILL GET!

No real use in arguing over it, after all, it's a lost cause...


Side note: Not attacking anyone here......just tying up the loose ends...


oh, and also on the main site...

Final Rule: The administration owns you. This means that what they say, goes. There is a reason behind their actions, normally. We will not abuse this power, but we will use it from time to time.

That says it all.

[Hellfighter 17]

Originally posted by Piccolo
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....I remember the times when one curse word would end with you getting warned, so in this case, there should be about 50 warnings...

Simply put...

Warning Offense Major:

If you break one of these rules, it will result in an warning.

Over use of profanity: Do not go overboard with pointless language. We do not encourage members to walk around testing out any new words that you've learned to make your parents mad. Sometimes, it may be appropriate in order to show character or such, but repeated use of F*** about five times a sentence is a bit too much.

It's on the main site...

I do believe that we can be civil about each and every conversation. Though I do believe in equality, if one person breaks that rule and gets banned, what makes the exempt person so special, I'll tell you:

WHAT EVER THE STAFF WANTS, THE STAFF WILL GET!

No real use in arguing over it, after all, it's a lost cause...


Side note: Not attacking anyone here......just tying up the loose ends...


oh, and also on the main site...

Final Rule: The administration owns you. This means that what they say, goes. There is a reason behind their actions, normally. We will not abuse this power, but we will use it from time to time.

That says it all.

That's not the point, Piccolo. Yes, staff do have control over us here, but that does not necassarily mean that they should approach it like that just because it's GJ. I wasn't really around here the time he first was, and I admit that that one thread with the convo was pretty immature, but if we are to give people second chances why do we not give it to them mentally, yo?

Originally posted by Pikkon

Originally posted by Minoshia
If you look back in that thread, Krillin handled how he should. Someone should have locked it right after Krillin posted. Pikkon, you speak of knowing what it feels like but you publicly put him down after tons of people had. You know what it feels like, so you put someone else through it? Nice. Wicked immature people like borgos/tottepo or whatever calling him immature, granted it was, but was it necessary to point it out like that. No. Then a staff member, calling GJ pitiful, yea way to lead the site. Thanks for that. Another staff member calling him a goddamn hypocrite, after the thread was locked. And yet another saying he still annoys the shit out of him. And then an entire paragraph completely pointing him out as the village dumbass, by an admin no less. This was all fuckin unnecessary, and I know in this post i crossed lines i should not have crossed, put people and said things that shouldnt have been said, and pointed out things that higher people then me did that was wrong, people that can remove me permanetly from this site. SO I'm sorry for this, but i'm not editing it out. Because it needs to be said, it's wrong, and i believe in what im saying is right.

Well if he has felt what it felt like before then he woudn't of done it again, but it seemed that he hadn't learned yet, so he totally walked into it unpurpose. I had to learn myself and I think that he should do the same, so he did desearve it, maybe he should of just said this if he didn't want to be bashed.

JR: K guys I don't feel like fighting Im done with it ok...

Then maybe they would of stopped, and Im with you, I think you are right in every opinion you just shot out at us, I know I did the wrong thing, and if it makes you any happier then then Ill tell him I am sorry for being a little prick, but I do believe he should get a second chance, everyone desearves a second chance, hell, maybe I can try and teach him to be a nice guy ='P

Since when did adding to a problem solve it? Gawd! You know why a baby learns how to speak the language they are brought up in? Because they are surrounded by people who speak it so they learn it, why wouldn't the same be said for maturity? How does acting immature towards him tell him that acting immature is not wished (I use "wish" instead of "right," as saying there is right and wrong is pretty black and white)? Yeesh.

EDIT: I boldified and underlines the part of my arguement that I believe should definitely not be skimmed. Appreciate. =)

[Hellfighter 17]

Yes, he was indeed.

[Reijin]

Originally posted by Reijin
On further note, how many bannings does it take before people grow up and realize that they are doing wrong? I don't even see why he's unbanned again. These posts are 90% of the types of things he posts, where he messages someone and tells them off in some big convo, and then posts it thinking we "want to read it to laugh at teh other noob" or something.

No one's laughing with you, only at you.

I still stand by what I said. I was not downing him on a personal level. I am instead trying to stress the point that noone feels like putting up with it. He's had second chances. And one of the first posts he makes after being unbanned is something like that. I am not shit talking someone, I'm making a point. You can't get banned, unbanned, banned, and unbanned again, and then expect people to give you complete leeway to pull the same stunts all over again that got you banned in the first place. This was me finally getting ticked off about it. I will say this to any member that I feel crosses the line repeatedly while expecting to be let off with a slap on the wrist, even on the 90th offense.

Noone should claim "abuse of god mode powers" on this either, because that isn't a point. Yes, it was locked. I felt that it meant enough to me to state my opinion on the matter IN THE SAME WAY YOU DID BY MAKING THIS POST. I neither critisize you for it, NOR WARN YOU FOR IT, because of the generalizations made in both of our posts. However, if you wish, I will go down that thread and warn everyone that I feel contributed to the flames, myself included. However, I will not act like nothing has ever happened before and this is his first offense, because honestly, its not.

I WANT him to improve. I'm going to use my best example here... There was a Cell Jr that we had for a very long time. He used to post the most noobish posts you could find. You know, the one liners and such as a new topic. Stuff that was completely irrelevant to any topic and a waste of time to read. By the end of his stay here, he had become one of my favorite members. He finally learned to type coherently and not like someone suffering from Perkinson's disease, and made very well written clear roleplays. He stood out as one of the best examples of growing up from the spam posts and definately caught our eye by doing so.

That is what I like seeing. Not someone that leaves a jail for the third time in a row, then goes and rapes someone again (same offense as they'd been thrown in jail for before), and then claim that they should be given another chance and a clean record and just get more jail time and get out again in the future to do the same thing. You know, that's exactly what one of my gf's uncles does. And honestly, the world should not work that way. You shouldn't judge someone based on past actions that were ten years ago, but if you spend a straight year beating up everyone that walks past you, and then leave the neighborhood and come back a month later to jump someone else, don't expect everyone to go "Oh, well it was just a one time thing", b/c it usually isn't. You have to work to prove to anyone that anything is different, and until then, people will assume you haven't changed. He probably has changed, but he has to prove that. Until then, he has to accept any backlash that he's earned from his previous actions. They aren't unwarrented. They are from boiling points being reached over and over again.

EDIT: On a side note, this isn't just because of it being Goku Jr. I did the same thing when Kid Buu made his flammatory post, and I really like him. He was a great member before he left, and we had a decent rivalry going. Recoome was in my alliance. He was very cool to me, and I had no problems with him. However, when he crossed serious lines with flaming, I had to say something about the fact that it was immature to keep bringing the same thing up after both parties had let it go. Same with anyone else. Not trying to bring up bad blood about anyone, but if you cross lines, people will call you out on it.

----ADDED BECAUSE AN ESSAY ISN'T ENOUGH, SO EVERYONE CAN LAUGH ABOUT MY ESSAY ----

[Raditzu]

Originally posted by Koola
Threads are locked for a reason. Don't start topics in response to locked threads.

Warning for Minoshia.

[Raditzu]

Staff: DO NOT POST IN A THREAD THAT WAS LOCKED TO HALT DISCUSSION OF THE TOPIC.

If your further opinion of the matter was wanted, it would have been asked for. I have deleted your posts.

[Reijin]

To clarify, my post was addressing the staff regarding the same thing. I was saying "shut up" after I watched more people post responses about this thread for that reason.