dear everyone

[Vegeta]

Can anyone hack into Chubbs and get us FTP access?

[Vegeta]

also; script kiddies need not apply

[Raditzu]

Not without FTP access, which we don't have.

[Android-18]

No, if we did we wouldn't be here still. >.>

[Android-18]

Exactly, if we knew even a little of the login info we'd be able to figure the rest out. I wouldn't doubt Jeroen's pass to be painfully obvious. We know nothing, as far as I know, he changed it all without even telling us.

[Vegeta]

EDIT by Reijin: Um, no.

[Reijin]

Originally posted by Android-18
Exactly, if we knew even a little of the login info we'd be able to figure the rest out. I wouldn't doubt Jeroen's pass to be painfully obvious. We know nothing, as far as I know, he changed it all without even telling us.

There are too many things wrong with this. He changed the details when he returned, but Rad and I finally convinced him to give me access. Though at the time we were arguing with him about the Space and ship updates, and as you know, we were up for HOURS arguing with him about that. He kept telling me that he hadn't put a login back for us yet (he had completely removed that method). I think he said later that he had put one back up, but he wanted to tell me in person on Aim, not over PM, for "security reasons" and wanted only me to know (no clue why, but he only wanted ONE other person to know, though we may have gotten him to agree for Rad too. I had the convo saved in PM, but deleted it during DA for room). He then vanished before actually telling me, saying he'd be gone a short time for his move and he'd be right back to give us access, since it wouldn't be long.

Yep, we see how that goes.

EDIT: I still have the previous details and stuff in a location, but those do not work.

[Vegeta]

The things you edited from my post are all things you could figure out if you go to their site. This site is hosted by hostrocket.com, and their faq tells you how to format FTP logins. subdomain@domain.com

The ftp can always be reached at ftp://dracondev.com.

The cpanel can always be reached at http://dracondev.com/cpanel.

It doesn't do you any good if you don't know the passwords. You should try some of the passwords he's used before for the cpanel though. And maybe try a root ftp login.

If you want to PM me whatever passwords he's used before I can try too. I just think it's about time someone had ftp again. :/

[Reijin]

I tried to look at his Cpanel profile for the pass he uses there. He removed access for us to look at his board account.

I tried to use every pass I know of that he's done. Nothing.

Nothing similar from my guesses either. I'd almost say it'd take a brute forcer, but he tries to keep his passes formatted so that you'd have to have one insane library to draw from on that, which would take for freakin' ever to actually go through.

I'm completely against asking anyone that is not under top notch trust level though to help us, as this is not OURs to request help with. Essentially its the same as us asking a friend to go with us to kick the door down on someone else's house to get back our video game, which doesn't look good on our case.

The only real option that I see is to try to get ahold of him. There's only one person I would ask to help us break through in real life, and that's only because of just how good the guy is and just how little he'd actually give a damn to use the info. And I still wouldn't truely agree with doing that.

No matter what I wish were the case, the real bottom line is that he owns this site (though he doesn't run it) and he's gracious enough to keep it on his server. We could always move to another server, but we can't take something that he owns and move it to our own server, and not expect bad karma. I'm going to talk to him long and hard when I next see him. My gf has even said she wants to try to raise the money to fucking buy the site from him (though she has alternative reasons for wanting to do so, something I find hilarious and don't want to go into, and I wouldn't let her actually do it. No matter how humourous it might be.)

[Hellfighter 17]

I hope this means Rei's long posts are back. I kinda missed 'em. =(

[Banned Dana]

wouldn't we like, completely lose the training script and rosters if we did a complete move? I mean, they're all saved to the MYSQL host and as far as I can tell, it wouldn't work if you moved the script over to a new site, unless you spent days upon days reconfiguring the scripts. Not to mention Jeroen would be extremely pissed to to come back and find that everything of his went from his site to a completely different one, and who would pay for the new burning board, unless you planned on just keeping it here...and we'd have to find a really good host.

[Burter Jr]

I agree with what you said in that it'd be difficult, 13.

But VJ being pissed is something I, personally, no longer care about. He's the one who left us.

[Banned Dana]

Oh, I honestly agree with the switch, I was just thinking of his feelings.

And I and honestly say that I a have a feeling that VJ will be back around August. The server payment will be due and he'll come back asking for money...he always does.

[Reijin]

None of you know just how much that "donation" thing irritates me. I've yet to see the site actually see it, but he assures me it goes there.

I'm against moving without his consent. Yes, we'll lose access to the training script and the database in its entirety. Its coded to only work if accessed using that specific link. If you try to reach it from a different URL, it won't work. Lots of other irritating things he did for it for security reasons too.

[Violet]

So, hypothetically speaking, if I found a way to somehow get to the cpanel he has already, then I wouldn't get in trouble or anything, right?

[Vegeta]

Not if you just PM'd me about and didn't tell anyone. We'll keep it on the downlow.

And about moving;

DON'T POST WHEN YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I have the database.

The scripts are not in the database.

If we have FTP we can make backups of the database.

ARRRGH.

everything would be EXACTLY like it is here we'd just have a new URL and the ability to update the site.

[Raz]

The problem is no one can get in contact with him, right?

...

Did Jeroen have a job of any kind? Guessing probably but I want specifics.

I realize what I'm searching for now has most likely already been done repeatedly, all the same I still at least want to give a run at it.

[Hellfighter 17]

I'm pretty sure he was a freelance webdesigner.

[Raz]

That's what I figured from what I pulled from DraconDev before it couldn't access the page anymore.

Reason I asked is because I came across this

BUT I found another thing that looks like it could be related here

Though the second one doesn't give an email address that I can match up with anything he's used before. The first one appears a little more likely because of the yahoo address "jeroendenhaan@yahoo.com" he used when I chatted with him a while back coupled with the email written. The only problem with the "name only" email address is that's what a business typically wants employees to put instead of something fancy to make things quicker. Making either of them a shot in the dark considering the wide "Jeroen den Haan" is of a Netherland name.

=/

[Violet]

You did the Jeroen Den Haan search too, huh? Makes me want to kick a dutchland person.