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[Android 17]

*realizes he hasn't posted in this topic yet*

I must say, while I was originally eh to this idea on the basis that I didn't want to lose my character, I have to say with the advent of being able to retain old Shevs, I embrace this idea. With the extra of being able to keep my techs, I'm a happy camper. It sucks that I just got RAGE only to have a limited lease on it before it goes back in the garage, but I suppose I can live *sigh*

Either way, I think it's pretty cool that people are being given so many additional options when it comes to retaining their heritage following this reset. You people should be grateful you get anything >=o =P

w00t Sno? Seemed everyone else was doing it, so I figured bandwagons are always semi-fun to hop on to <_<

Edit: The bottom line is...stats can be rebuilt a lot easier than storylines and attained a simpler than techs =( They should be even easier to build with this new system that reward those who write more frequently at on a proficient level, y'know?

[Super Buu]

I think you're getting confused about the differences between techniques and moves.

Technique/Ability: The kind of thing you earn from a saga.
Move/Best Move: Things you pick up on 'new moves', bought with int.

They've said nothing about keeping best moves, and I'm assuming since all stats including int are being wiped, the moves will be gone too. Only techniques will be kept.

Otherwise I'd be pissed too, because I've spent the past few months boosting only physicals to get to the SKK requirements. >_> Speaking of stats, I hope they take this opportunity to wipe Determination off the map. That shit is game-breaking. *gangsign*

[Hellfighter 17]

Aqua, you have to keep in mind that the stats themselves will be reworked. like, with intelligence - as a certain staffer had pointed out, people should base a character's intelligence off of what theyw ant them to be, not some number.

Originally posted by Super BuuQuestion, though - will Kaioken count as a tech? I know it's a multiplier, but it may be coming under some new ruling ... or at least it was, when I last suggesting a renovation for it. >_> Just wond'rin.

It is grouped under transformation. Also, there have been ideas to completely rework transformation, but, as of yet, I am not aware of it new strides.

Originally posted by Aqua
basicalyl the "+ 1" or + "x" whatever will be up to you guys depending on where you start ki levels at and how far you're willing to put rad ahead of the pack. Hoestly, i dont care how much the + "x" is, i'd just like the see the current rankings transfer over in some form. People earned their ranks through their writing and i think it's only fair to reward that.

As Waffuru said, that could work. If we did so, the number betwene Rad and Kid Buu wouldn't be near as large, though (I'm thinking as though that is +75 to each stat. In that case, Rad could have had three switches and still pretty much not be affected).

Originally posted by Sno
IMO, if characters are already getting to keep some of their abilities on the transfer, that's plenty of a beginning boost.

Seriously, for such a great group of writers, some of you are placing waaaaaaay too much emphasis on zeni and powerlevel. That's my opinion, anyway.

The being able to keep non-transforming techniques was a sort of compromise, and it appears as though we will need to keep that in lieu of this thread. However, although they will be "up" in that way, they will be low in another way: XP, or experience points. You use that to buy techniques and will be replacing TP, as well, so the amount of XP that a technique is equal to will probably how much of a defcicit they have (some leeway might happen here). Just an idea, but how does that sound?

Originally posted by Grandpa Gohan
hm.

Will we still recieve a weekly TP ammount? Or moreso based on individual posts/every couple posts?

This is sounded more similar to a system I know quite well; it was one used on KissDBZ way back.

Every post(or about that), would be graded and the staff would be like "raise you ki by X%"(Ki was the only stat we had).

Weekly training would be thrown out. Also, the exact new training system has not been banged out (as far as I know, I just woke up and this is pretty much the first thing I went to do after brushing my teeth), but you'd need to have a certain amount completed before we would give ya a grade, and both quantity and quality would be used (once again, as far as I know, we have not come up with details to try to equate quantity to quality).

Originally posted by Pigero
Can I be the masked wrestler known as Pigeon... or straight up just a pigeon...XD

You could be the wrestler, but. . .I'm not so sure about a bird. Just the DBZ races (which will be extended to Arlians, Buus, reptilians/fishies, and so forth. Also, on that note, an idea had come up to give each race advantages and disadvantages in relation to other races, but that hasn't been worked out as much as other schtuff.



I'll try to go find out if developments have been made so I can be kept up to base.

[Grandpa Gohan]

I know what Sno is saying, and I know what Aqua is saying.

But: 4 months, while not a huge ammount of time, is certainly enough to get some more abilities under your belt.

Aqua, your stats, theyre a reflection of your character, or reversed? Dumb question, but I read it once and it sounds like you pumped phys stats and now you're building your character from that, though Im probably wrong.

[Kirano]

RP'ing over Power in my books.

[Aqua]

Originally posted by Grandpa Gohan
I know what Sno is saying, and I know what Aqua is saying.

But: 4 months, while not a huge ammount of time, is certainly enough to get some more abilities under your belt.

Aqua, your stats, theyre a reflection of your character, or reversed? Dumb question, but I read it once and it sounds like you pumped phys stats and now you're building your character from that, though Im probably wrong.

Exactly. Aqua = his ki level

If we dont get our best moves, or our zeni, or any compensation for our current ki level... I have nothing but a history to show for all of my work.

edit: Also, understand people. I come her because it is a role playing GAME. Everything else is secondary. You may not like that about me, but I come to write my own story and use the rewards from my work to make a more powerful character and then use that to fuel my writing. it's why I do this.

[Super Buu]

Don't forget your PC3 reward. That's a-comin'.

To be fair, Aqua, you haven't been here that long. Regardless of whether or not you get some bonus, it's not going to make that big of a difference. You'd actually be one of the people to benefit most from this reset, being as you're pretty far down the ki list.

I personally think the number of techniques carried over should be limited. Perhaps you get to choose 2 or something. Makes it so that the reset isn't completely pointless. Others may disagree. Techniques used to be handed out like candy compared to the difficulty gaining them nowadays, which is why I'm worried in letting them carry over in their entirety.

[Grandpa Gohan]

Originally posted by Aqua

Originally posted by Grandpa Gohan
I know what Sno is saying, and I know what Aqua is saying.

But: 4 months, while not a huge ammount of time, is certainly enough to get some more abilities under your belt.

Aqua, your stats, theyre a reflection of your character, or reversed? Dumb question, but I read it once and it sounds like you pumped phys stats and now you're building your character from that, though Im probably wrong.

Exactly. Aqua = his ki level

If we dont get our best moves, or our zeni, or any compensation for our current ki level... I have nothing but a history to show for all of my work.

Im playing devils advocate when I say this:

As a writer, isnt that enough?

/end

Most people come here to write, because they enjoy doing it. I enjoy writing, and thus this is a outlet for me, I also love the unique community chubbs has, Im sure that and writing keep a lot of people comming back.

[Hellfighter 17]

Originally posted by Aqua

Originally posted by Grandpa Gohan
I know what Sno is saying, and I know what Aqua is saying.

But: 4 months, while not a huge ammount of time, is certainly enough to get some more abilities under your belt.

Aqua, your stats, theyre a reflection of your character, or reversed? Dumb question, but I read it once and it sounds like you pumped phys stats and now you're building your character from that, though Im probably wrong.

Exactly. Aqua = his ki level

If we dont get our best moves, or our zeni, or any compensation for our current ki level... I have nothing but a history to show for all of my work.

I, personally, don't see that as too bad. <.> I'm willing to give up all my stats, moves, and my x40 without compensation so things canbe fair. I'll be blunt: I don't like your system, but we are considering it, but we would only be gaining XP out of it, and not veyr much at all.

[Aqua]

I've no clue what that will be for me, or when we'll even get those... or if we're still getting them at this point.

[Reijin]

One thing to point out. How high your powerlevel isn't exactly equal to how long you've been here, but its close. I was basically the first member to join the site, and I'm completely for this. We need the change, and I'd love to see what the climb to the top would be like with 30+ people thrown together doing it rather than 5 people getting a huge headstart simply b/c they knew of the site first.

And as to why my power level isn't higher and why people are catching up...

And why I don't agree with using your physical stats or ki as your "modifier"...

Look at my stats and tell me what stat you think I've been training for the last two years.

That will show you just how much I actually give a crap over stats now. I pour it into one stat every week b/c I literally have no reason not to.

I gain 33 points a week.

My total stat points total up to: 7257 points.

Rad's total stat points: 8310.

How is he ahead of me after joining a decent amount of time after? He's been involved in a couple of dragonball power wishes, and also been in the RoSaT a few times.

I've yet to enter the RoSaT, haven't died so I've not gotten XP from training in the Afterlife, I've yet to get to Lord Vine either. Of these, only one is completely out of my reach for the most part, and the first one was out of reach until a recent change in the rule, but since then we've been back to back sagas. Third part I just haven't had time for.

I believe a RoSaT training right now would give me quite the update, if I remember the rules. Possibly 100 TP. I know I'd have three times to enter it.

18's total stat points: 5957.

She's third on there.

Neither Rad nor I have a reason to care about training our points anymore to be honest. There've been numerous times that I've been MIA and it didn't bother me on points.

[Aqua]

Guys, i get the whole making it competitive thing. I'm for it. But the current ranks need to transfer over in some form IMO. Like I just said... all I've earned in my writing in this game is power. And, currently, my suggestion is the only one that compensates me for that work. It sounds selfish, maybe t is, but when you pour hours and hours into your writng for a gmae, you dont want it wiped clean and have nothing to show for it while those who pumped their tps into other areas get compensation while you're SOL.

[Aqua]

Alright. I've taken too much space and too much of staff's time. If staff could, please just PM me your decision about transferring some form of our current ki levels/ rank to our new PLs. Your decision will determine whether or not I return.

Thanks guys for taking the time to speak with me. But it seems I'm the only one objecting and I feel like an ass hole at his point.

So yeah, staff please PM me either way so I know.

[Reijin]

I would be losing all the work that I've put in since August of 1999. My post count is low, yes, but we've been through probably 9 board wipes between multiple hackings and changing forums.

I'm willing to make that sacrifice for the greater good with pride.

I'd also be losing, regardless of compromise, the massive HUGE class ship that is FULLY DECKED OUT TO BE THE FREAKIN' DEATHSTAR that our alliance has. I still have numerous storylines I would love to tie up at some point.

After the number of pretty successful rpgs I've been a member on though, I am willing to sacrifice that b/c this is not going to be the first character that I liked that I would lose, nor the first time I've lost tons of work for a good outcome (as opposed to assholes hacking us).

[Hellfighter 17]

If there is to be compensation, it would most likely be static, or the basing off of powerlevel would make it so that Rad would get 4 XP and Kid Buu would get .5 XP, a technique costs a couple dozen XP.

[Reijin]

I think that we should trust in the staff to see what they do with this opportunity. For people that played FFVII till the game was completely maxed out, it sucks to lose all of your stats to move on to FFVIII or beyond. It sucks to give up the story and the characters, and you love seeing it revisited at times. It sucks to lose all those hours of straight work.

Meanwhile there are numerous other players that are sitting around waiting for the next game to come out to see how much Squeenix has grown and what that experience has enabled them to create with such games under their belt.

[Grandpa Gohan]

Alliances, they're being wiped as well?

[Aqua]

Originally posted by Reijin
I would be losing all the work that I've put in since August of 1999. My post count is low, yes, but we've been through probably 9 board wipes between multiple hackings and changing forums.

I'm willing to make that sacrifice for the greater good with pride.

I'd also be losing, regardless of compromise, the massive HUGE class ship that is FULLY DECKED OUT TO BE THE FREAKIN' DEATHSTAR that our alliance has. I still have numerous storylines I would love to tie up at some point.

After the number of pretty successful rpgs I've been a member on though, I am willing to sacrifice that b/c this is not going to be the first character that I liked that I would lose, nor the first time I've lost tons of work for a good outcome (as opposed to assholes hacking us).

That's the diference between us Rei. Your staff here, I'm not. Your an admin here, I'm not. You've been here through all other wipes, I haven't. This is my last DBZ RPG character. If I lose all of what I've earned for him, i just don't feel like it's worth it for me, personally , to stay. It's cool that you are, but I'm not. No offense intended, but that's how it is for me at this point in my life.

Yes, you and rad are losing more than anyone. Great. I got it. But however small an amount I may be losing, im not willing to let go of completely.

If you guys are doing something like what HF said, I might can live with that as long as I get to keep Aqua and meh tokens (whcih waff said previously we could do). So yeah, ok then. Looks like it's all gravy.

[OldYamcha]

Originally posted by Toma
Oh, and I trust staff, they say it's going to be good, it's probably going to be...

>.>

QFE...Just wait and see what happens. Stats are nothing compared with story. You can REbuild your story afterwards...

[Super Buu]

Originally posted by Toma
Stats are nothing compared with story. You can REbuild your story afterwards...

That makes no sense. >_> Like I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

Just sayin'.