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Oh yeah, and I'm changing the #5 from my list.
5) Asch fon Fabre - Tales of the Abyss
Its not really a hard fight at all, but god damn its fucking epic.
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Kid Buu Wrote:He just didn't seem as appropriately epic to me as some of the other bosses.
The method for getting to the magical weak spot, although a clever trick, seemed relatively bland when compared to jumping up and catching the wing of a bird bigger than a house and then crawling along it as it soars thousands of feet in the air, trying to avoid losing your grip and plummeting into the water so you can stab it in the motherfucking head.
Compared to that, the final boss, with his stationary "I'm a tower!" theme, seemed weak to me, but YMMV.
Granted, that bird was pretty ridiculous. I still can't beat him in time trial, although I haven't really logged any hours trying. I thought the sheer magnitude of that last guy was what was so ridiculous. Sure, he was a stationary tower tossing fireballs at you from the edge of the world but you hadn't climbed up anything that massive all game. The snake in the sand who you had to make crash into the wall was pretty awesome, and the other one that was just insane was the flying boss in the desert, for whom you had to shoot his air bags to get him to drop and then go climb up him and stab away. I love that game.
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Twenty minutes my ass, The End takes a while. I did use the tranquilizer gun though, so that probably takes longer.
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I tranqued all the bosses in MGS3. I thought it was actually easier to do that than it was to just kill them outright.
stun 'nade > bosses
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I had a rough time with MGS3. It was then that I had to come to grips with my declining video game skills =(
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I'm really not sure how you had a hard time with it.
As awesome as it is, its really not very hard. The camo system actually made it ridiculously easy, I thought.
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Yeah, I know. I just sucked at it. I don't know why. I couldn't sneak up on people for shit, couldn't choke anybody...I got through the game but I didn't feel incredibly sneaky about it. I was doing something wrong, I just don't know what. Matt did way better than me and so then I was like, well fuck this.
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How I beat The End was, once I located him, I placed Claymores along his escape route, snuck up behind him, held him up, and then shotgun him in the back. He'll throw down a stun nade, and based on how lucky you are you might be able to shotgun him in the back as he runs away and smashes into your claymores.
Alternatively you can use other high explosives for the initial hold-up... Just remember to not get too close.
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I've heard nothing but good things about Shadow of the Colossus, but after this exchange, I'm buying it.
Is it only for PS2, though? Because, no matter how much a game takes advantage of the core technology and shit, it just hurts my eyes to concentrate on the poor-er resolution now that I've been playing nothing but Xbox and Wii.
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It's a PS2 exclusive. I've been wanting it for a while, the only thing keeping me back was it wasn't 20 dollars yet. Now it is and I don't even have that.
What did you guys get for ratings at the end of MGS3? I got a shark rating, never beat the game again. The PS2 needs to be cleaned or the CD is too scratched, either way, it ain't lettin' me play.
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Yeah I work silly hours so I had my mom get it for me, and it only cost me having to take her out to lunch tomorrow w00t.
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Yes, Shadow of the Colossus is among the PS2's greatest late-comers. If anyone liked that game, then check out ICO as well. It's gameplay is entirely different, but it's made by the same developers and it seems to be the sequel to SotC (even though it was released beforehand).
Kami Wrote:Yeah, I know. I just sucked at it. I don't know why. I couldn't sneak up on people for shit, couldn't choke anybody...I got through the game but I didn't feel incredibly sneaky about it. I was doing something wrong, I just don't know what. Matt did way better than me and so then I was like, well fuck this.
The first time you play through MGS3, it is a bit intimidating. The completely new camo, food, first-aid and CQC functions, the patrol guards have an infinite view range (I think that was the most difficult thing to deal with in the original game before they added the panoramic camera), if you move within five feet of anyone they will automatically sense your presence even if you're crawling at them from behind.
But, there's also some weaknesses built into the guards: only a limited number of them carry radios, most guards have a hole in their patrol routes so if you know it then it's easy to get by, your CQC will completely dominate them at close range, and wearing The Sorrow's camo uniform makes you 100% silent even when you run. There's really no avoiding the annoyance of switching camo gear every 30 seconds, though.
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Also, what's really awesome is that you can shoot out the guards' radios if you're precise enough. I've only really had to use that once, but it's a very cool mechanic if you're good at it. I'm sure people who are have saved themselves tons of trouble with it.
EDIT: Also, Shadow of the Colossus is awesome. The climbing mechanics are like nothing I've ever seen, it's so sweet. And climbing through colossal asshair is some very funny stuff.
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Mighty Dabura Wrote:Yes, Shadow of the Colossus is among the PS2's greatest late-comers. If anyone liked that game, then check out ICO as well. It's gameplay is entirely different, but it's made by the same developers and it seems to be the sequel to SotC (even though it was released beforehand).
The first time you play through MGS3, it is a bit intimidating. The completely new camo, food, first-aid and CQC functions, the patrol guards have an infinite view range (I think that was the most difficult thing to deal with in the original game before they added the panoramic camera), if you move within five feet of anyone they will automatically sense your presence even if you're crawling at them from behind.
But, there's also some weaknesses built into the guards: only a limited number of them carry radios, most guards have a hole in their patrol routes so if you know it then it's easy to get by, your CQC will completely dominate them at close range, and wearing The Sorrow's camo uniform makes you 100% silent even when you run. There's really no avoiding the annoyance of switching camo gear every 30 seconds, though.
I've played ICO, it was very cool, but a pretty difficult puzzle game. I didn't get to spend much time with it though.
I also didn't get to spend much time with MGS3. I beat it, might've started a second game through, but ended up not making it very far, I probably had to go back to school or some shit like that. But yes, it did seem pretty daunting at first. I might've been giving the game too much credit but I really tried to be careful, then I'd get impatient and that's when I got killed. I spent plenty of time running away and hiding while the alarm went off. The best one was when I was hiding in a log, and some guy stuck his head in to spot me...so I shot him in the chest with a shotgun and much to my sheer glee he went flying backwards.
Blind Man Wrote:EDIT: Also, Shadow of the Colossus is awesome. The climbing mechanics are like nothing I've ever seen, it's so sweet. And climbing through colossal asshair is some very funny stuff.
I always giggled when I stabbed someone in the eye/ass/crotch/some other silly place
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I had an easy time with MGS3. The only time it's hard is on Extreme, and even then I can plow through it with relative ease.
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Never tried extreme. It doesn't even sound fun.
I used just about every trick in the book when it came to MGS3. The fun was exploring just how many ways to not get caught (and then get caught anyway).
I also had the pleasure of enjoying Metal Gear Online before they took it down. =D It was sweet, and I'm guessing you guys didn't sooo... /brag
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Raditzu Wrote:That would be... Masa and Mune.
And that one's only hard if Chrono hasn't learned Slash yet. Not sure how you'd manage that, though.
Are you referring to Chrono Cross or Chrono Trigger?
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We don't play Chrono Cross around these parts.
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Chrono Cross > Chrono Trigger.
Of course for saying that, there's gonna be a burning cross on my front lawn tonite. Whee.
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MGS3 is super easy once you learn the binoculars-handgun snipe.
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