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Retane, please help me here. Are you really a fucking retard, or are you just peddling along for a literalistic joke?
Of COURSE the fucking IRS doesn't get off their cushy desk-job and actually build the roads. They take in and manage the money that gets thrown into the giant cess-pool that is the government budget, which in turn gets shuffled out to build public facilities (such as roads and schools).
Besides, there's no contradiction between the tax on the purchase of the ball and the tax on the increased value (and the subsequent increase of the student's income). I don't understand tax law, but it's perfectly legal for the IRS to tax the student. Otherwise (surprise!) they wouldn't do it.
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08-10-2007, 11:42 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-10-2007, 11:44 PM by Violet.)
I have to agree with Retane. Krillin, have you ever had a job? Look on your paystub. FICA is for the social Security, welfare and all that other good shit. IRS takes out the most to fund government bullshit like this war. No offense to the military guys on here, the war is a whole other can of worms I don't feel like getting into, but hopefully you see my point. Its rather ironic that long ago, our culture had immigrated here to escape taxation without representation, and yet...here it is. =\
EDIT: and by taxation without representation, I mean, they're taking our money to do with what they please, although, we are totally unaware of what exactly they are doing with it. By all rights, we should. Watch a documentary or do some research on the IRS, Krill. Our tax money goes towards some pretty friviolous shit.
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Literalistic joke?
Hey you're the one that said they built them. Thats robbing the credit from the actual people that do.
And people in their high seats do all kinds of shit that's the law, but tooken to court it gets reveresed... so surely theres a fucking loophole somewhere.
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There's always loopholes, just unfortunately, those loopholes are more available to people with a bit of money in thier pockets than people who are struggling just to get by.
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Violet, I'm a bit more educated than you seem to think. You're misusing the phrase "taxation without representation". A completely different use than what our Independence was declared upon. While the government doesn't work at all well, that's the way democracy is set up. It's a system that ISN'T supposed to work efficiently. And so far, it's done a damn good job at that. You want efficiency? Go to Cuba.
The IRS handles the tax money from our incomes. That tax money is used by the government. If you don't want to spend taxes, then go build your own fucking roads, and go pay your own private tutoring, and defend yourself if someone decides to drop a bomb on your ass.
Retane, I don't care who it is that does the manual labor. They don't deserve any extra credit for building our roads. You didn't plan them. You didn't provide the money for them. You were just the cheapest employee your boss could find that would do a bit of essentially unskilled manual labor better than other employees at your same price. Want a biscuit? You'll have to roll over for one of those.
Your opinion will a bit more valid when you remove the word "tooken" from your vocabulary.
Violet, I've a feeling you have no idea what it's actually like to be struggling to get by. The fact that you have an Internet connection at all shows that you have at least a little breathing room for luxury. Yeah, you might not be able to really make rent every single pay period, and you might not be able to afford everything you want, but damn it, you live in America. I'm sure you spend money on things you don't actually need all the time. Struggling to get by is when you can't buy everything you NEED, not everything you want.
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Cheapest employee? Are you stupid?
Unskilled? Are you a dumbfuck?
Let me educate you on something. I've not had the liberty to work with someone thats unskilled in what they do. I surely am not the cheapest laborer/operator in any company I've been in, nor am I without skill. Can you look at blueprints, know what the cut or fill of a road muck has to be, know when you need to come up and when to come down? Can you hop on a machine and get the job done? HAVE YOU EVER WORKED IN MOTHER FUCKING CONSTRUCTION?
No? Alright, then shut the fuck up. Unskilled manual laborer. You'd be what I would call unskilled.
Someone like you, wouldn't last two fucking weeks as a simple hillman. Hell you'd probably sit there and watch a man get buried and not utter a word. You'd loose a limb if you were put in a hole to lay pipe. Put you on a machine, and if you ever got the bitch started, you'd end up in a wreck, or fucking up the surrounding area's utlities.
So don't criticize construction workers. We're hired because we aren't afraid to get our hands dirty, and we arent some pansy that will sit there and talk down about what others do like some punk ass bitch. We get hired because we have the skills to get the job done, safely and correctly. Comprehend?
As for building roads.... My uncles, my father, my brother, myself, we build the fucking roads. Not a fucking government.
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Retane Wrote:Cheapest employee? Are you stupid?
Not really. I just understand simple economics. Every boss does a rough sort of mental estimate of a ratio of an employee's price to the quality of work they put out. You came out on top statistically. It's nothing to be ashamed of, really.
Quote:Unskilled? Are you a dumbfuck?
Let me educate you on something. I've not had the liberty to work with someone thats unskilled in what they do. I surely am not the cheapest laborer/operator in any company I've been in, nor am I without skill. Can you look at blueprints, know what the cut or fill of a road muck has to be, know when you need to come up and when to come down? Can you hop on a machine and get the job done? HAVE YOU EVER WORKED IN MOTHER FUCKING CONSTRUCTION?
No? Alright, then shut the fuck up. Unskilled manual laborer. You'd be what I would call unskilled.
Every single job in the world requires at least some sort of training. Even a bunch of part-time laborers in the cotton fields were trained to some extent in what they do (whether self-taught or otherwise). Perhaps you know the technical terms of the trade, and understand how to operate the machinery. I would consider construction on the line between skilled and unskilled, probably encroaching on the skilled side (depending on how deep into it you are). Considering your speech and what you've let on, I considered you in the lower ranks of construction, and thus, roughly unskilled. But hell, if you're a foreman, I'll rescind anything I've said.
Quote:Someone like you, wouldn't last two fucking weeks as a simple hillman. Hell you'd probably sit there and watch a man get buried and not utter a word. You'd loose a limb if you were put in a hole to lay pipe. Put you on a machine, and if you ever got the bitch started, you'd end up in a wreck, or fucking up the surrounding area's utlities.
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Retane Wrote:So don't criticize construction workers. We're hired because we aren't afraid to get our hands dirty, and we arent some pansy that will sit there and talk down about what others do like some punk ass bitch. We get hired because we have the skills to get the job done, safely and correctly. Comprehend?
I was hired at my job (at a fish market/produce stand) because I have the skills to get the job done, safely and correctly. So I'd say we're pretty parallel in that respect. I've got skills you don't. You've got skills I don't. I'm DEFINITELY an unskilled worker.
Quote:As for building roads.... My uncles, my father, my brother, myself, we build the fucking roads. Not a fucking government.
You did the labor. The government provided the backing and the planning for it. Without them, your uncles, your father, your brother, and yourself would essentially be a headless chicken stapled to a ceiling fan.
And yes, there is a point to that somewhat <EDIT>odd</EDIT> metaphor. Use search. =)
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Retane, Krillen, and Violet. If you three continue to bitch and argue in this fucking thread that isn't topic related then kindly gtfo. Stfu all of you (mostly Retaine and Krillin). This is getting out of hand and if you want to continue it, do it in Kame House, PMs, or outside of this thread.
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Krillin Wrote:or are you just peddling along for a literalistic joke?
I lawl'd.
Anyway, locked.
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08-11-2007, 01:15 AM
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Yo, dumbass. Where the fuck do you think that county/state money comes from?
Taxes. FUCK.
I'm sorry to be rude, but come on. Taxes pay for anything and everything the government does or has commissioned others to do. No construction crew is gonna do the work for free, and you can't fucking tell me the construction crew pays for the road. They don't. The government does. With money earned from taxing the public, or, money from the IRS. If you're in Canada, change "IRS" to "Revenue Canada" and increase the percentage taken. Otherwise they're the same damn thing.
EDIT: And... Construction is pretty much a skilled trade, Kril. The guys who don't know have skills are like, the flaggers and stuff on the roadways, not the guys actually cutting roads apart and laying concrete. Some of those guys have tons of training.
EDIT2: Whoa, Rad. Didn't see your post. My apologies.
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