Suicidal...

[The Not Cool Not Tapion]

I swear, I'm cursed. After reading the thread about the MMO suicidal shit, I thought I'd tell you all about this.

There are like 5 girls at my school that are suicidal, and they are all very hot.

Let's start with one.

1. Jessica. She's a friend of me and my group of friends and is "in love" with one of my friends, Garrett. He breaks up with her and one day at lunch she's poppin advil and tylennol pills like crazy (about 7 pills) and it's retarded because that wont do it but she says she would die for him, so the next day to keep her from killing herself, he gets with her and the next week they get in a fight and he breaks up with her, she isn't dead yet =\

2. Melissa. She's actually a very good friend of mine and also my ex (Yes I did have a girlfriend). She inflicts pain on herself a lot, usually by using erasers on her arms which leaves marks and burns your skin. She went out with my best friend because I hooked them up, he dumps her, I start realizing the marks. I have talked her to stop but she still does it, a little bit. She says she is "addicted" but I guess it's like being anorexic (sp?), but she is calming down. There are more problems then that, she is from the Marshall Islands and when she was younger, she was raped. That was before she came to the US and she is 16 now, and yes, in 8th grade. She's smart, she is just older because she came over and started school later. There is also something else she wont tell me, I think I need to know. She is a very nice and VERY hot...woman.

3. Regi. Hottest chick in the 8th grade and currently, in the middle school, hands down. She is friends with Melissa and is like, friggin fine. She used to live by me and we were good friends before and I took her to the movies once. Good times back then, I was major pimp. But during a lock-in fundraising deal, I am talking with her and Melissa and I realize she has like 30 small cuts on his right arm. Holy shit. The hottest chick in school, a cutter..-_-

4. Leticia. She is a new girl at our school and has the fuckin' coolest last name in the world. Her last name is Sprinkle. How fucking cool is that? She is good friends with a couple of my friends and I in class. She is friends with Regi and Melissa too. She usually always wears long sleeves but awhile back, when she wore short sleeves, I saw on the top of her left arm, many different cuts. I asked her about it and she wouldn't say. So later, I ask her about it and with the charming guy I am, she told me. She said she cut herself one day (One day=30 cuts...wow) when she moved to her grandmas at 2nd semester of school. When I talked to her about it, she says it's because she thinks everybody hates her, her grandma, her mom, her dad, etc. I tell her it's not true, she says it is. Blah blah, I'm tired right now. You get the picture. There are over 30 cuts on that arm but they are old now, nothing new.


Why me? Seriously. All these hot women around me, are cutters and suicidal. Jessica told us she was suicidal. I don't know what to do. I have talked them all down mostly, but wow. My life is interesting...also known as LIVING HELL. My natural charm with the ladies has led me to realize many things in life and I am able to talk women down about that. I could be a counseler and Melissa calls me one =\

It's kind of sad in the end.

[The Not Cool Not Tapion]

Thank you for your knowledge, I'm actually serious about that.

I don't doubt the attention one for Leticia, but Regi, she has enough attention, if you know what I mean...*fantasizes*

[Raz]

That's what happens when you people have lives >=O go loner.

Nah, that's besides the fact. I used to (and still do) have a friend who is female, she usually enjoys the comments made by my other male friends about her ass which is unusally out there. Fact of the matter is that she has handful of things to bug me about... because I choose to ignore her complaining I assume that she thinks I'm someone to vent out her feelings to. Recently she had stopped cutting herself, swearing that she was cutting her wrists till I found out that she hadn't. Lie #1 for attention.
After me and her were talking for a bit I decided to give her my SN for AIM, just so she had it if she needed anything along the lines of school-wise stuff since I don't normally go on alot. Well a couple days later she began talking that she was cybering with a bunch of guys and I happend to be one of them. Lie #2 for attention.
Finally she confronted me and said that she had 'feelings' for me when not a half hour ago she was scooping out guys with one of the more *slutty* girls in the school. Problem was she had known I had a girlfriend already, even more to the point that the relationship was serious since me and her had been together for two years now. After I said that it wouldn't work out she threatend to 'slit her wrists' till I ran the 'suicide is a cowards way out' speech... not really using those exact words but enough to tell her what was what.

Pardon my French but I tell you... having a conscious is a bitch. =/

[Burter]

I have a somewhat fucked up story.

When I was 15, I was gonna try killing myself, but decided to seek help. So while on one of my rages, I called a help line.

And I got a message. "All counslers are currently busy right now, please wait."

Needless to say, I slammed the phone down and then went on with it. Obviously, I wasn't successful.

There is no point to the story, but I thought I'd share

[Burter]

I tried countless times before realizing it wasn't worth it.

To get on the topic at hand, take Pikkon's advice. Surprisingly enough, he made some very good points.

[Old Selipa]

Tap, I presume you know these girl for a long time, understand from their past how long they have been cutting themselves. If it?s a recent thing like a few months then it?s a cry for attention and the best way you can approach it is not to bring the topic up when you see cuts on them. Ask about what?s new and when they see that the cuts don?t get attention they will stop cause it proves no purpose in what they want.

Think about it, if you want a person to see you injure your body you will cut your face but that?s too obvious and will backfire. The next place is their arms cause its somewhat covered by clothing so when they move their arms the clothing can unravel and show the cuts thus getting the shock to the friend saying ?omg she/he cuts herself? then you fall into the trap asking what?s the problem then they get their attention. The brain then will see that this method works best to get attention and they will continue to cut because they know it will work out.

However if they cut in places people never see or if they never bring it up or when you see it and start talking and they blow you off (u will know if its cry for further attention with the blowing off ) then its another story cause then they have as Pikkon has said a mental disease that needs help.

How to get help is how well you know them, some people who are a little stronger then the others mentally work with it on their own for a long period of time then crack by telling a friend or killing themselves but before killing normally go to a friend or a loved one. Others you should report to a proper helpful counselor but make sure you know that this would work, cause not even knowing it, if a counselor calls their house they will lose it because they wanted to work it out for themselves for the time being and will further conflict damage upon their bodies after the call ends. And this part is dangerous cause then the unstable emotions they thought they could work out erupts and they take it out on themselves in a horrid way.

[Hellfighter 17]

Your best idea, Tap, would be to basically take Pikkon's advice. They will need you to be there for them. I have a friend that is suicidal and cuts herself. I knew that I should help her, but I wasn't sure how. She kept it really on the DL, so I was the only one that knew about, I think. Multiple attempts to kill herself, and when she quite isn't at the point she will cut herself.

You need to get them help, because there is most likely something troubling them. It could be stress, that seems common for the ones where you wonder why they would do it, but there is also bullying. That is what it was for me and that is what it is for my friend. I have been there for her, but she has recently started taking sessions with a therapist. I was teh one who caused it, so she is really shutting me out for it, and she has recently went on vactation where she said she will think about whether she still wnats me to be her friend or not.

I know she will continue to be my friend, because she basically talks to no one else, and if she does push me away, that is when I will try to push to bring her closer, because I couldn't bear it if she did do something.

It seems like the first one(Jessica?) just wants something to change, maybe she is under a lot of stress from the parents or something, but to me it sounds like she wants something to change, since she is so open about it(I cannot be sure, I am only taking that from my own thoughts, feelings, and actions). As for the others, they probably need somebody to be tehre for them and help.

Basically, the best thing you can do is get them professional help. If you can help, it is your moral obligation to do so.

[Metal Koola]

Originally posted by Furiza
I have no respect for anyone who kills themselves. It's something I feel strongly about.
Obviously Baata's the exception, because he's teh sex.

But, personally, if they want to kill themselves, let them.

Last year at my highschool, there was this kid who killed himself, and the next day everyone was upset/crying/etc. I didn't understand it at all. I knew the kid, he wasn't a friend of mine... nor was he a friend to everyone at the school. I don't see how he could have effected an entire school just by dying, it seemed completely incomprehensible to me. This girl asked me why I wasn't upset by him dying, and I told her:

"Imagine that he moved to... Jamaica! It would have the exact same effect on your life. You didn't know him in the first place, so him not being around anymore isn't going to change you." Evidentally that was an insensitive response to a seemingly depressing situation, but I stick by my comment.

[The Not Cool Not Tapion]

Thank you for your thoughts...all until the last two =\.

That's only because they are dear friends of mine and I don't want to see my friends die.

[Hellfighter 17]

They were just expressing their thoughts on why some people would weep for an unknown soul...I say it is mainly because of society, I don't blame everything on society, but some people feel that they need to weep for a person, no matter who they were, because if they don't they will be seen as inhumane. I don't think I have ever had somebody at a school die, so I am not sure what I would do in the situation. Sure, I would feel empathetic for those who cared for them, but I would not weep for them, I think.

I think we can all understand that you do not want them to die, it is tragic when somebody you care for dies. Sometimes it can even be more tragic when it is self-inlficted, because many people will wonder why they did it, but that is sometiems a major caus efo rit, people just don't know what they are going through.

[Ruhiel]

Someone at my school shot themselves just last week. I never knew them, so I couldn't feel sad for them, but suicide is still a terrible thing.

If they haven't confessed they are suicidal, don't act like they are around them. It makes them feel more depressed and/or the world feels sorry for or hates them. If they haven't, you need to be there for them Tap. Just be as good a friend as you can, and don't crack too many jokes, because those can hurt, even if you didn't intend it.

But, if they have confessed they are suicidal, maybe it's best to talk with them. They probably won't want to talk about it with you, (I don't know why, my psychology knowledge only goes so far) but try at tell them that a lot of people here would be very much hurt if they were to kill themsevles. Explain why they shouldn't do it, and try to convince them not to.

That's all I have to say on how you could try to help them. In my personal opinion, I think people who commit suicide were weak, and pathetic. Not only did they just end their life, when they could have done some real good, but they also commited a terrible sin. (I won't go religious on ya'll, just my opinion, like I said) And thus, I conclude my rant.