Vanguard: SoH

[Vegeta]

Anyone?

btw, if people are like "wtf it's exactly like WoW" I'll delete your post. I don't even want to hear it.

[Vegeta]

fine. it rules you guys suck.

[Warako]

I need to upgrade my computer. Being broke sucks.

[Reijin]

Judging by the number of posts, I'm assuming a lot of "wtf its just like wow" posts were made.

I was looking at the box of the "limited addition" earlier yesterday. Didn't see anything too standoutish though, OTHER than the great feature of it automatically linking your internet profile to your account. WoW does this to an extent, as far as the message board is concerned, but I've always wished it'd like more directly to show your current equipment and guild stuff and all WITHOUT requiring you to use third party programs.

[Vegeta]

Nah, nobody replied.

I'm really excited to craft a boat.

edit: my vgplayers profile

http://vgplayers.station.sony.com/charac...7244643606

[Super Buu]

Tell us about the game. I did some quick research back when you posted the topic but I didn't see much that grabbed my interest. It doesn't look anything like WoW, but I love WoW so that's not necessarily a good thing.

[Dehan]

I'll take a wild guess and say you gotta pay to play?

[Raditzu]

Yeah, you have to pay to play, Turles.

Vanguard doesn't do a whole that's "omgz soo new11" but it does it all really well. You pick your race (there are something like 14) then your class (there are 15 to choose from). Some classes can only be chosen by certain races, but all races are equipped with unique racial abilities. Some of them are seriously amazing. For example, the race that waff chose (one of the human races) can turn on the ability to dodge almost all attack for, like, 30 seconds. My race can summon a drake that gives buffs and can attack and stuff.

Here are some of personal favorite things VG did. Instead of only having one target, you can now keep a defensive target and an offensive target. Lets say you have a heal and an attack spell. The attack spell will automatically hit your offensive target, while your heal will just shoot over to whoever your defensive target is (its makes you your defensive target if you dont have one). This makes trying to heal during a fight much easier (or so I'm told, I'm playing a nuke). The Caravan feature is really neat too. So someone invites you to caravan. You accept and then log out. The person who invited you (the caravan leader, rather) runs to a "bind stone" and sets the caravan point. If you've been logged out for 3 hours you can then choose to log back in where you were when you left, or where the caravan point was set.

Fellowships are probably one of the coolest things ever. You form a fellowship with other people. Then you go out adventuring and killing stuff. After gaining adventuring experience 25% of it goes to your fellowship, with everyone who's offline gaining that much experience. The same thing happens while you're offline. While your fellows go out adventuring you gain 25% of the XP they earn. It'll be incredibly useful for keeping a group of friends or guildmates around the same level.

Speaking of levels, they have an attribute system. For each level after 10 you gain 12 attribute points per level (16, I think, if you're a human) and you gain an automatic bonus to certain stats (unless you're human). The great thing is that you don't get them all at once. You gain 2 point when you level (6 for humans) and then 2 points every 20% of your experience bar you fill. You stop caring about hitting the level and instead just think about hitting those attribute points. It really takes away most of the grind.

There are three "spheres" of experience every character gets. One is adventuring, and this encompasses the basics: questing, grinding, farming, raiding, all that good stuff. The second is crafting, which is also pretty self-explanatory. You gain crafting experience by taking work-orders from cities and completing them. You gain more experience/better payment by filling work orders with higher level goods. As you gain crafting levels, you gain access to better crafting techniques (so you can create items of higher quality with greater ease) you can more effectively utilize table space (letting you bring more resources into your crafting sessions) and you can learn more advanced recipes.

The third sphere, and my personal favorite, is the Diplomacy sphere. Diplomacy is a way of interacting with NPCs in hopes of convincing them to act towards your own personal goals. You can get Diplomacy quests, where you need to follow through a story-line by lying, coniving, and smooth-talking a series of people into carrying out a storyline. Its actually pretty cool. The best part, however, is how these diplomacy sessions are carried out. Each "parley" is played out as a card game. You bring five expressions (in the form of cards) into the game and play them to gain influence and move the dialogue in your favor. You can get special items, more cards, buffs, and experience from completing diplomacy. You can also partake in "Civil Diplomacy" which gives buffs to everyone in the city. Stuff like increased accuracy, increased damage, a bonus to harvesting skills, or damage resistance. That kind of stuff.

There were a few other things I was going to mention, but typing all of that out kinda made me lose my train of thought. Aaaaanyway, if anyone is looking for any more information, feel free to ask.

[Super Buu]

Sounds pretty cool, actually. I like the caravan/fellowship systems. I might wait to see if it picks up, but definitely something I'll consider getting for my MMORPG fix when I hit 70 on WoW.

[Android-18]

Maybe if I get a job I'll try it, it does sound pretty neat.

Btw Rei there is a way to show stuff from in WoW, it's called WoWroster.

How much is this game + monthly fee?

[Raditzu]

$50 for the box and $15 per month.

I remembered a couple of things, too.

There are several things that will require several crafters to build. Boats, for example. Take me, I'm an "artificer" which include carpentry, minerology, and stonesmithing. Waff is a blacksmith which, obviously, deals with metal working. When we get high enough level to build a boat, I'll use my artificing (carpentry, specifically) to do all the wood work while Waff will provide the metal components (chains and anchors and the like). Once that's done we'll need to find and outfitter to craft up some sails (Metal 15.1 is one such Outfitter) and then we'll have ourselves a boat. Same kind of thing applies for houses as well.

You can also team harvest. Lets say Waff finds a node of copper and starts harvesting away. If I'm in his group (which I often am) and I have the appropriate harvesting tool (which I do) I can join in the harvesting to help increase both his resource yield and his chance to find rare resources. Its a nice feature for when youre bored and want to run around not really doing anything with a friend.

[Reijin]

Originally posted by Android-18
Maybe if I get a job I'll try it, it does sound pretty neat.

Btw Rei there is a way to show stuff from in WoW, it's called WoWroster.

How much is this game + monthly fee?

I know that, that's why I said "aside from third party programs".

EQ had the magelo thing it used too. I've just never understood why the games didn't incorporate them in themselves, instead of making you manually update things on the program yourself.

[Metal Teemer]

I'm one of those people that finds diplomacy one of the most confusing things I've ever tried. Granted, I haven't tried it much, but first impressions sometimes take a while to overcome. This is just my personal opinion, mostly because I am not a big fan of the card system, but I can always go back and complete the initial diplomacy training quests. As it stands right now, Rad is all about

The shaman class (which is what I am) gets this really cool ability at level 15. They choose an animal spirit, and can either summon it as a pet, or transform into it. The three animals are bear, wolf, or phoenix.

I first found crafting to be a very confusing and tedious task, until I really got into it. My problem was that I was trying to craft things at far too high a level for me, so there were tons of complications (things that make crafting more complicated). Now that I've gotten into it, I can start crafting things that might actually become useful. Just today I made a weapon for a monk. Very rewarding indeed.

All in all, it's a great game.


It's just like WoW.

[Vegeta]

For anyone interested, we play on Thunderaxe.

edit: before you buy it make sure you meet the system requirements... such as 20gb for install. Mine is currently at 17gb.

[Android-18]

1. Is there a free trial like WoW has (1 month free)?
2. Are extra characters free (on WoW you can have as many charaters as you want, on FFXI you have to pay a doller for every extra character)?

[Spencinator]

Originally posted by Metal 15.1
I'm one of those people that finds diplomacy one of the most confusing things I've ever tried. Granted, I haven't tried it much, but first impressions sometimes take a while to overcome. This is just my personal opinion, mostly because I am not a big fan of the card system, but I can always go back and complete the initial diplomacy training quests. As it stands right now, Rad is all about

The shaman class (which is what I am) gets this really cool ability at level 15. They choose an animal spirit, and can either summon it as a pet, or transform into it. The three animals are bear, wolf, or phoenix.

I first found crafting to be a very confusing and tedious task, until I really got into it. My problem was that I was trying to craft things at far too high a level for me, so there were tons of complications (things that make crafting more complicated). Now that I've gotten into it, I can start crafting things that might actually become useful. Just today I made a weapon for a monk. Very rewarding indeed.

All in all, it's a great game.


It's just like WoW.

=P

Er, anyway... I've heard how Vanguard's unfinished. =( When do you guys think the creator will finish it up?