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Counter-picks - Anzekay - 12-19-2011
I think Garen is a decent choice for someone to slow down Nasus.
I also think Riven is better suited for the task, though.
Counter-picks - Kaden - 12-19-2011
Warwick beats Nasus in lane. Warwick actually beats a lot of people in lane.
Counter-picks - Jarka - 12-19-2011
Kaden Wrote:Warwick beats Nasus in lane. Warwick actually beats a lot of people in lane.
BUT HE'S A JUNGLER THAT'S WHAT HIS CHAMP DESCIRPTION SAYS LOLNOOB
Counter-picks - Piper Juunanagou - 12-19-2011
Riven counters everyone.
She's a dumb champion.
Counter-picks - Ashe - 12-19-2011
I think putting a Vayne top lane is a great option as well against Nasus.
Counter-picks - Tyr - 12-19-2011
Piper Juunanagou Wrote:Riven counters everyone.Evidently Irelia is a hardcounter to Riven. If Riven tries to combo, you shut her down with the stun and chase her off. If Riven dashes in to stun you, your passive basically nullifies her stun in the laning phase till you get Tenacity where you then feel even less of it, so you chase her off again. I haven't tried this personally but I see a couple of high rated players do this every time.
She's a dumb champion.
HotshotGG: "Oh Riven top, I'll take Irelia for a free win."
I think he won that time too.
p.s. I also think Nasus spanks Garen in lane. I have no clue what to do to counter Warwick, because Lanewick is fucking gay.
Counter-picks - Mal Nova - 12-19-2011
Jonathan Meer Wrote:Every time Nasus goes in for cs, he's getting silenced and spin-attacked. Shit hurts.
Nasus can hit Q way before he goes in for a CS. And Garens Q and E arent as painful as you think. Remember... Nasus is a tanky jackal. If it was Fizz however...three Q's and dead fish. THeres a big difference.
Counter-picks - Josh - 12-19-2011
Kaden Wrote:Warwick beats Nasus in lane. Warwick actually beats a lot of people in lane.
Lanewick Mid, all the funnies.
Counter-picks - Rafael - 12-20-2011
midwick=happy me farming all fucking day
Counter-picks - Mr. Zhu - 12-20-2011
Kaden Wrote:Warwick beats Nasus in lane. Warwick actually beats a lot of people in lane.
Yeah it's pretty much near impossible to beat WW in lane... lol.
Pantheon spanks Riven's behind in top lane.
Counter-picks - Anzekay - 12-20-2011
Tyr Wrote:Evidently Irelia is a hardcounter to Riven. If Riven tries to combo, you shut her down with the stun and chase her off. If Riven dashes in to stun you, your passive basically nullifies her stun in the laning phase till you get Tenacity where you then feel even less of it, so you chase her off again. I haven't tried this personally but I see a couple of high rated players do this every time.
HotshotGG: "Oh Riven top, I'll take Irelia for a free win."
I think he won that time too.
Ugh, never dash in to stun for harass. You use it to get out/avoid damage.
I wouldn't say Irelia is a hardcounter at all, but she's certainly strong against top Riven. Strong enough that playing top Riven against her isn't really worth taking Riven top because you'll spend more time poking at her and less time farming and Riven's strength is that she can do both at the same time against most champs at top AND escape ganks constantly. Same goes for Udyr. If I saw either of them going top against me in champ select, I'd swap to jungle riven if at all possible.
Counter-picks - Anzekay - 12-20-2011
Mr. Zhu Wrote:Pantheon spanks Riven's behind in top lane.
Nope. It's pure fact that Riven is fine against Panth top lane.
Counter-picks - Mal Nova - 12-20-2011
Weemus... You asked if I wanted to do the 1v1 then left not even 4 minutes after..... I SHOULD be on tonight later..... If I'm not sowing my seed
We will test your theory twofold....
Counter-picks - Mal Nova - 12-21-2011
WHERE ARE YOU WEEMUS!?!?!?
Counter-picks - Mal Nova - 12-28-2011
SO I've heard Cass is a good mid counter to alot of peole... Who are they? And why?
Who counters her?
Counter-picks - Kaden - 12-28-2011
Cass can easily harass, safely farm, do a lot of damage, and 2 second AoE stun.
The people she doesn't "counter" are people who can also farm from a safe distance, such as Karthus, Malz, and Morgana. Honestly, I'm surprised people haven't been playing her as much lately. She's still super strong.
Counter-picks - Mal Nova - 12-28-2011
Can you actually counter pick a duo bot? If so how? Can u gimme a few examples??
Counter-picks - Kaden - 12-28-2011
Really it depends on the support more than anything else. If they enemy team picks something like Janna + Ashe, then you know they have no healing, relatively low mobility and their only method of disengagement is dependent upon a skillshot. If I wanted to counter that lane, I would go for Taric + Corki, probably. Ezreal or Trist would also work. You have a quick engagement and can probably drop whoever gets stunned.
Conversely, if the enemy team is running something crazy aggressive like Leona + Graves, you can counter with Soraka + Caitlyn because of their good survivability and ability to farm at long range. Alistar also works in place of Soraka, in that instance.
Bot lane really ends up being more about countering a playstyle than a champion's kit. You still want to take someone who compliments that as best as possible, but it's a more nuanced thing than countering a solo lane.