Energy and Otherwise

[Belle Hibiki]

Continued from QSU.

Vegeta is hit by the spirit bomb, which contains the energy of the entire planet. That's not simply growing weak from a fight, that's being hit with a massive attack that nearly killed him. Big difference.

The Frieza thing is true, although it's because he went up to his maximum power. Just like anyone, when you try your hardest, you grow tired more quickly.

The 17 one is comparing someone who has a unlimited supply of energy to someone who doesn't. I don't know what your trying to prove with that comment, unless your just saying Piccolo got tired? Because yeah, everyone in dbz gets "tired", it's just they can suddenly pull out huge bursts of energy out of nowhere to defeat someone who isn't tired, in the slightest.

I never said they don't get tired in DBZ. Or if I did, it's not what I meant. I meant in reality it has little effect, because somehow, even if they are exhausted, they still get the energy to win.

Edit: Unless they are Piccolo, Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, or really, any character that isn't a Saiyan, and thus, not important enough.

Gohan is fighting Vegeta BEFORE Vegeta gets hit by the Genki Dama. At the time Gohan is fighting Vegeta, Krillin is getting the Genki Dama from Goku.

My point in bringing up 17 - and in all those - was to show that long term stamina does have an effect on several fights.

If your argument is that the False Moon's stamina drain shouldn't matter because it's all just done for dramatic purposes anyway, then we should logically remove the PP cost of any PP moves, and transformations, too.