Room of Spirit and Time

[Jack]

RoSaT should be an environment to allow fluid time, towards a max amount of XP. Or... something, idk, this idea is lame. Not to mention it's a step in the "people can be changing abilities like a sumbitch" direction, which I thought we wanted to avoid.

Mainly, this could just be a game mechanic, if you guys are so adamant about it, and you leave it up to the individual to roleplay it however they want. I don't see any reason that this has to be the ROSAT, other than people going "stfu its the rosat and thats that". Not to mention how Ashe seems to want this place to be Heroes Lite, and anything that pulls us away from DBZ he's been on right on board with since the beginning.

This place is feeling less and less DBZ with every new feature, and I kind of have to echo what Dave said like a year ago: when did this become an MMO? How long before we get the items/armor thing figured out, and everyone has to walk around with a Chubbs equivalent to "Lightbringer Pauldrons" to live up to the standard of a complete character?

All I'm saying, despite all the insults, is that this could be something else. Baba's Hut, a trip to Guru's place, anything else. The RoSaT can be something a lot cooler, and (tbh) useful.

[Cain]

It could be much cooler.

[Kaden]

Over-exaggerating your own personal perception isn't really a good strategy when trying to make a point, Jack. Just a heads up

If it could be cooler, let us know how.

[Sol]

I think it's a good idea. Just too much XP to be justified. 75xp IS a lot, maybe not to a Kaden, Sage, or Ashe but to the average player 75 is way too much. I say either jack up the price to 150 or even 200 and let the player add another ability while retaining his older ones or lower the price to 50(which seems like a fair compromise) and keep it the way it is.

[Jack]

eh

[Vad]

I think it's a good idea. Just too much XP to be justified. 75xp IS a lot, maybe not to a Kaden, Sage, or Ashe but to the average player 75 is way too much. I say either jack up the price to 150 or even 200 and let the player add another ability while retaining his older ones or lower the price to 50(which seems like a fair compromise) and keep it the way it is.

I like this approach. Good job Saturos. <3

[Belle Hibiki]

If it could be cooler, let us know how.

Limed for truthiness.

What exactly do you want out of it? In DBZ, people were able to spend an entire year training in a single day in the RoSaT and come out much stronger. Given that the staff doesn't want to hand out scads of XP left and right, how would you reflect that in the current system?

Idea that popped into my head while I was writing this: Maybe the first time someone goes into the RoSaT, on leaving they gain a "RoSaT Training" multiplier to their CA that stacks with power-ups, but goes away after a preset amount of time. (Saga? Two weeks? Month?)

This still lets people be "zomg badass" for a time after their training while not just handing them XP.

In my mind this would be a one-time thing, because it would be pretty lame if people started relying on it -every- saga. Runners would be almost required to make their villains ridiculously tough to compensate, sort of like how Fusion used to necessitate retard-high powerlevels.

[Ashe]

Not to mention how Ashe seems to want this place to be Heroes Lite, and anything that pulls us away from DBZ he's been on right on board with since the beginning.

I'm going to stop you right there and say that you know practically nothing about the types of things I'd prefer happen on this site. I don't consider it very often that I bother to put up a fight for something going through or not, so I'd appreciate you not acting like I'm standing around thinking I run this place.

Also, Jack, keep in mind that not everything I have posted to the public is something that I agreed with, supported, or even easily explained without throwing up a little in my mouth. I think all of us have at various times had to play messenger for an idea that, to be honest, we fought tooth and nail against on the staff board. I know Kaden has, I know I have, and I know Ander has, to say the least.

Referring to the ROSAT... Like Belle somewhat pointed out, you guys seem like you want top-down design of it to where it pretty much has to boil down to "Enter in there, post your spar, get free bonus xp, limit once per character, staff plz judge". I said that we aren't doing that idea, and its pretty much the only one that gets suggested (outside of a few exclusions, such as Angelo's).

Angelo, not entirely sure how I feel about yours. Our stance right now is that we do not want to let people "buy" abilities with XP, especially outside of using dragonballs. That would do exactly that, paying 200xp for buying an ability. (We don't consider swapping the same thing).

Also, Jack, we don't have a problem with people swapping away on those abilities every day of the week, as long as they are willing to do the amount of roleplaying necessary to keep paying that cost and entering the ROSAT. I don't see how what you said makes any valid point in that matter. All you are doing is bitching that "this is the suck, plz make this cool" and any ideas we use "still suck, plz make cool". Then when someone makes a suggestion of "wut if i spar inside for free xp?" someone else goes "THAT IS AWESOME!" It IS awesome. I like every idea that gives me free points as well; that doesn't make it entirely healthy for the RPG.

[Jack]

As of right now, the only counter offer I have is to use this to allow fluid time. You could be in there for a week, or write towards a maximum amount of XP, whichever comes first, and this thread can be separate from another thread you're also working on at the moment.

That and a flat-rate bonus XP award, upon approval. Which is kind of complicated because of the automated XP, but that can be worked around.

Belle, people using the ROSAT all the time wasn't a problem. At least not as far as I remember... I only recall like a handful of people using it in my time here.

edit: Ashe, take comfort in knowing that I never planned on reading your retort. let's move on

[Vad]

Jack,

I'm going to agree with Ashe. You don't know the opinions he gives. You can't know.

[Jonathan Meer]

Dude. Jack. We can take 'em.

[Charles 4]

I also agree with Angelo. That sounds cool. I would prefer the 150-200XP option.

[Jack]

Dude. Jack. We can take 'em.

I have like one post left in me on this matter. You're free to bang it out on your own though, that's always fun. For the people watching.

[Belle Hibiki]

Letting you buy abilities through the RoSaT completely defeats the purpose of making the DBs the only way that you could get Abilities in the first place.

If you guys want to abandon that, then make sure you state that right out. Because this was a pretty big deal around the time of the reset, and a big reason why the DBs are as incentivized as they are now.

[Sage]

I actually like that we're moving away from DBZ canon. <.<;;

I actually dig the 'jack up the price and give away a new ability!!!!' feature. A one-time use option, obv, but it's badass.

[Kaden]

That's really disappointing, Jack. You mock someone in a poor attempt to make your own point seem more valid and then refuse to read a simple explanation in their own defense.

Just to remind, please read the OP, guys. It very clearly lists what mechanics we don't want to use.

[Jack]

I just didn't want to keep that going, I shouldn't have posted in the first place. In my defense though, the Heroes thing was mentioned a year ago (by someone else, and not necessarily towards Ashe) and I still agree with it.

[Kaden]

I wouldn't want to keep that going either, if I were you.

[Jack]

I don't know what that means at all... are you coming on to me?

[Jesper]

I actually like that we're moving away from DBZ canon. <.<;;

I was afraid that I was the only one.