What are you reading?

[Veritas]

I just finished the first book and it was pretty good. Im gonna pick up the second in the near future. Its very wordy, but good.

Kenny cant read!

[Lucifer]

The Dark Tower is Sci-Fi/horror/fantasy and worth a read through, though the bits involving Susannah are pretty drab, and dated in congruence with the disorder Susannah has. Some of the things written are about a total other disorder than the one stated.

Read Dark Tower. Have mind blown. That said, they start off pretty slow, I wasn't really hooked untill about halfway through the second.

Susannah parts are entertaining. We all know that all mental disorders are fictitious cries for attention, and therefore there's no problem with King getting them wrong in order to suit his purpose.

[Cain]

Feel free to pick it apart as you see fit. Random excerpt:

He was quiet for a moment, and I wondered what he was thinking about. Maybe I didn't want to know.

"What's the hardest part?" I whispered, still wishing I could help.

"The hardest part is feeling . . . out of control," he said slowly. "Feeling like I can't be sure of myself--like maybe you shouldn't be around me, like maybe nobody should. Like I'm a monster who might hurt somebody. You've seen Emily. Sam lost control of his temper for just one second . . . and she was standing too close. And now there's nothing he can ever do to put it right again. I hear his thoughts--I know what that feels like. . . .
"Who wants to be a nightmare, a monster?
"And then the way it comes so easily to me, the way I'm better at it than the rest of them--does that make me even less human than Embry or Sam? Sometimes I'm afraid that I'm losing myself." [pg. 345-346, New Moon]

If anyone would like to describe the feelings of their characters about their own super powers better (regardless of which emotions they connect to them), you'll have a new reader. Feel free to post your quotes of better material here (whether you've written it or not). It's an open invitation.

P.S. I'm interested in knowing how far any of you have made it in Twilight. Admittedly the beginning's first X amount of pages are slow compared to the rest, but it is by no means poorly written.

[Cain]

For lack of an edit ability:

That whole rant about King from me was totally jumping the gun. He researched his characters well, and the only inaccuracies were based on the material he had at the time.

And welcome back Lucien.

[Kaden]

I've read the first two books.

I'm not going to turn this into a "find the best quote" contest. That quote is just ridiculous because you have a decades old vampire going through some emo teenage angst. It's just stupid. And, really, that gets to the core of my problem with the series.

The words she use might work fine when strung together, but that doesn't make her books well written. The main character is a masturbatory projection of a ridiculously cliche teenage girl with no depth or no real development. The entire series she's just waddling along as predictably as possible all the while staring stary-eyed at her prince charming. It's not entertaining, it's stupid. That we're supposed to connect, on any level, with such a shallow, two-dimensional, unimaginative character like Bella is, quite honestly, an insult.

I give you a 100%, money back guarantee that you are not going to change my mind on this issue. Not even a little bit. I'm sure I won't be able to sway you, either.

People obviously like the series, it's been very successful. Really, I don't even begrudge the author for her success. I blame the moronic masses who are able to swallow a load like that and then bend over and ask for more.

[Vad]

What's that vampire series about this chick vampire who befriends a police officer who eventually saves her from a fire and upon seeing her regenerate...figures out her secret.

Then this other vampire nearly kills him from blood loss, so she bites him. That's where that book ends. =(

This must have like 5 years ago. Chick's name might have been April.

Would love to find that series.

[Rem-13]

NegaHellsing?

[Josh]

I've read the first two books.

I'm not going to turn this into a "find the best quote" contest. That quote is just ridiculous because you have a decades old vampire going through some emo teenage angst. It's just stupid. And, really, that gets to the core of my problem with the series.

The words she use might work fine when strung together, but that doesn't make her books well written. The main character is a masturbatory projection of a ridiculously cliche teenage girl with no depth or no real development. The entire series she's just waddling along as predictably as possible all the while staring stary-eyed at her prince charming. It's not entertaining, it's stupid. That we're supposed to connect, on any level, with such a shallow, two-dimensional, unimaginative character like Bella is, quite honestly, an insult.

I give you a 100%, money back guarantee that you are not going to change my mind on this issue. Not even a little bit. I'm sure I won't be able to sway you, either.

People obviously like the series, it's been very successful. Really, I don't even begrudge the author for her success. I blame the moronic masses who are able to swallow a load like that and then bend over and ask for more.

Concur.

Edward is like a century year old, there is no reason such a long lived person would have such an inability to control his emotions and be such a whiny douche.

Think about it like this, look at a 10 year old child and try to have a conversation with them. You will get annoyed very fast because of their frenetic thought pattern, and lack of any real sense. This is how teenagers would appear to someone as aged as himself- hell I am 27 and I can't stand teenagers.

[Vad]

NegaHellsing?

I almost want to say it's an RL Stine publication. I'm not positive.

[Jesper]

I read the first book based on a bet, and although I won by completing it, I still feel as though I should be lashing myself or something as penitence.

[Ashe]

What's that vampire series about this chick vampire who befriends a police officer who eventually saves her from a fire and upon seeing her regenerate...figures out her secret.

Then this other vampire nearly kills him from blood loss, so she bites him. That's where that book ends. =(

This must have like 5 years ago. Chick's name might have been April.

Would love to find that series.

Was it "The Last Vampire" series by Christopher Pike?

Despite being written obviously for teenagers at the time, I really enjoyed it a lot and should probably reread it again. It did a very good job depicting how I would expect someone who has a lengthy amount of experience from years of living to act in situations. I can't say if it would stand the test of time if I read it again today, but I did enjoy the storyline in the six books, which I got as two books that contained three volumes each in them.

The main character was named Sita in this though and there were many discussions of Krishna, Shiva, and the other Gods of that mythology while still keeping fairly realistic, and I think the discussion of the mythological elements while combining with modern day settings was what really entrapped me.

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If anyone wants to read something very entertaining while still being a quick read, try out the series Broken Sky. Its like six books long or so, all fairly short, but the concept its based on is very good. Its written as something you could picture being done in an anime or manga, and even the art on the covers are in that style. It was another book series I was reading back in high school when I wanted quicker reading than the Sword of Truth series that I was working on (which I also recommend) or Wheel of Time (again, recommend). You can probably find a site online to read the series from if you wanted; I found some site that has all the Animorphs books available for download in pdf format myself.

[Vad]

Was it "The Last Vampire" series by Christopher Pike?

Despite being written obviously for teenagers at the time, I really enjoyed it a lot and should probably reread it again. It did a very good job depicting how I would expect someone who has a lengthy amount of experience from years of living to act in situations. I can't say if it would stand the test of time if I read it again today, but I did enjoy the storyline in the six books, which I got as two books that contained three volumes each in them.

The main character was named Sita in this though and there were many discussions of Krishna, Shiva, and the other Gods of that mythology while still keeping fairly realistic, and I think the discussion of the mythological elements while combining with modern day settings was what really entrapped me.

You fucking rock. That's it! I read the Black Blood book. OMG <3

[Ashe]

You fucking rock. That's it! I read the Black Blood book. OMG <3

I have one or both of the three book volumes in my attic still and have been considering trying to read them again sometime, despite needing to hit the SoIaF series and others, to give myself a bit of a change from Fantasy to kick the blah.

And yeah, at some point I think she had a kid or something in it but can't remember. It was pretty crazy in story but was actually well told (from my teenage perspective) without being too over the top or anything.

I think at some point a guy was talking to her and was like "So you are a vampire? Does that mean that stakes to the heart or holy water or crap will work on you?" and she was like "I'm pretty sure that if you put a stake through ANYONE'S heart they'll die. I'm not dead, I just have a different body chemistry."

[Vad]

I enjoyed that book. Need to pick em up, once I start work. Recently got a job.

[Belle Hibiki]

Currently skimming through the Star Wars: Thrawn Trilogy for like the tenth time.

Zahn is fucking badass. I don't know about his other works, but this series of books is gold. You don't have to have read any of the other EU stuff to get into it (I certainly didn't), and his style evokes the feel of the early movies very well. Even if you don't like EU stuff at all, you should give this series a chance.

It's that good, IMO.

[Ashe]

Currently skimming through the Star Wars: Thrawn Trilogy for like the tenth time.

Zahn is fucking badass. I don't know about his other works, but this series of books is gold. You don't have to have read any of the other EU stuff to get into it (I certainly didn't), and his style evokes the feel of the early movies very well. Even if you don't like EU stuff at all, you should give this series a chance.

It's that good, IMO.

It was very good, one of the few Star Wars books I've read (along with the Crystal Star and Shadows of the Empire) and I bought all three (though I don't know if I have Heir to the Empire anymore).

Mara Jade was so well received that they included her in the Star Wars: Masters of Teras Kasi fighting game (which I actually really had fun with) as a character and for a while (and possibly still) considered her canon, like they do the events of Shadows.

[Cain]

That's fine and well you guys, but the quote is from Jacob Black, who is the same age as Bella after

SPOILER

he finds out he's an ill-tempered, cult-following werewolf.

ENDSPOILER

It's a quote taken completely out of context, and most of the folks here will sympathize with you (Mario) and your word-raping of anyone who enjoys the series, even marginally. It's a pretty common occurence, disliking something you don't understand. You don't understand why people enjoy it, so you're upset about it. You think you understand why everyone (America gave you the right to an opinion) does, despite it being your opinion alone.

Maybe you were a teen who never got angry about anything, angsty about anything, emotionally vulnerable about anything, or never cared about anything. Maybe you don't know what its like to care about someone of the opposite sex (for all I know you've got six girlfriends in four different counties) or don't know much about them in general. As it stands it's pretty easy to put a synopsis of Bella beside at least six out of ten girls her age and and get a fair number of common factors. She's a hopeless romantic (as are most girls toward their first love), and admittedly the series gets a little thin at times, but so did something like Starship Troopers, a cult classic I heard you're fond of.

This'll just end in heads butting for no reason, and you're disrespect is taken with a grain of salt. So flog some more, because it's clearly your purpose here. You're a wonderful example of staff to go off on a tangent just because of something you dislike, and I'm proud to have been your whipping boy if it relieves some of that writer's tension of yours. But now you're just getting angry, maybe you're frowning. Sorry to have brought up teen literature in a thread on a forum primarly for teens, about literature.

And good luck with your book.

[Josh]

Twilight is a terible series, and people like it for the same reason I like movies like Dance Flick and Disaster movie, it's fantasticly terrible.

But that doesn't mean it's a good book- it sucks.

[Belle Hibiki]

That's fine and well you guys, but the quote is from Jacob Black, who is the same age as Bella after

SPOILER

he finds out he's an ill-tempered, cult-following werewolf.

ENDSPOILER

It's a quote taken completely out of context, and most of the folks here will sympathize with you (Mario) and your word-raping of anyone who enjoys the series, even marginally. It's a pretty common occurence, disliking something you don't understand. You don't understand why people enjoy it, so you're upset about it. You think you understand why everyone (America gave you the right to an opinion) does, despite it being your opinion alone.

Maybe you were a teen who never got angry about anything, angsty about anything, emotionally vulnerable about anything, or never cared about anything. Maybe you don't know what its like to care about someone of the opposite sex (for all I know you've got six girlfriends in four different counties) or don't know much about them in general. As it stands it's pretty easy to put a synopsis of Bella beside at least six out of ten girls her age and and get a fair number of common factors. She's a hopeless romantic (as are most girls toward their first love), and admittedly the series gets a little thin at times, but so did something like Starship Troopers, a cult classic I heard you're fond of.

This'll just end in heads butting for no reason, and you're disrespect is taken with a grain of salt. So flog some more, because it's clearly your purpose here. You're a wonderful example of staff to go off on a tangent just because of something you dislike, and I'm proud to have been your whipping boy if it relieves some of that writer's tension of yours. But now you're just getting angry, maybe you're frowning. Sorry to have brought up teen literature in a thread on a forum primarly for teens, about literature.

And good luck with your book.

Jesus fuck it's like you didn't read anything he said.



How does him not liking it immediately equate in your mind to him not "understanding it"? A negative value judgment by itself is not indicative of some kind of perceptual flaw. Sometimes people understand something perfectly well and arrive at the conclusion that it's shit. Twilight is one of those things, and the opinion is certainly not shared by just Kaden. It's echoed from writers ever since the books came out and, in fact, the criticism has been widely publicized.

It's actually pretty disheartening that you're taking his criticism of the series so personally. The intention was hardly to make you his "whipping boy." He's harsh on Twilight, but for reasons which he explained in detail. If you knew Kaden a little better, you would know that he very rarely goes after someone personally.

But please, continue to make thinly veiled insults and judgments on people's characters whom you barely know. It's a handy time waster, if nothing else.

[Rem-13]

Kaden did pretty much imply he was a moron who liked getting literarily reamed by Meyer, but I agree in general and it goes both ways.

Anyone that's heard me talk about Twilight (spence) knows how I feel about its general audience, but thats only a certain contingent, there are several otherwise tasteful and intelligent people who I know enjoyed it. A list which Cain joined.