The Like/Hate thread (WoW)

[Kazuya]

Whores. Both of you.

[Milk Bubble]

Like: I got my Collector's Edition yesterday.

Hate: WoW. I have vowed to never play it again. God damn I hate it.

[Vad]

Like: I got my Collector's Edition yesterday.

Hate: WoW. I have vowed to never play it again. God damn I hate it.

What happened?

[Josh]

Like: Cataclysm quests and the Quest Giver quest.

[Rafael]

Hate: Fuck you, 5 of embers!

[Majicka]

Like: Deepholm

Dislike: Engineering is pretty horrible.

[Tyr]

but we have rockets

Like: Engineering has rockets.

Dislike: Our helm not being equal to current tier PvE and a half.

[Belle Hibiki]

Engie helms have always been entry-raiding stopgaps.

It's kind of sad, but that's just how it goes.

[Victoria]

Probably late but, I like troll druid <3.

Waited soooo long for this.

[Majicka]

Like: Back to playing my orc warrior, and playing with SMF instead of TG. It's so much more appealing to me, and it looks like next patch it might actually be even, if not ahead of TG.

Dislike: The huge arms nerf. If it goes live people might go fury for pvp which is kinda sad.

[Ashe]

Like: Nearly downed Nef 25 tonight. 17%. I'm not a main raider due to my work schedule by hopefully they'll need me tonight and down him so we can have the Dark Pheonix mount unlocked.

Altyr - Fizzcrank (H)

Pretty happy with my gear. Its basically the absolute BiS that I can get together without any VP items or raid drops (since I can't often do them and pass on all gear to raiders).

[Milk Bubble]

Hate: Trying to PUG heroics with the LFD tool.

Seriously what the fuck. I'm all for challenging content, but when the majority of your player base doesn't learn that standing in shit is bad, then you need to scale that shit back. I'm so tired of spending 3 hours wiping in these, and taking all of the god damn blame because I'm the fucking healer. I'm tired of DPS not even trying to CC, and I have to somehow fit that shit in while I'm trying to keep everyone alive.

I don't care if people want to be elitist and call me a "noob" because I wipe in heroics, because it is not my fucking fault. I'm sorry that most of the people who play WoW are fucking retards, and frankly I'm tired of raging at them. Blizzard doesn't realize that by making shit impossible to do for the average PUG, they are promoting hostility in their community, I have honestly been treated like complete and utter shit in random heroics. And no matter what, everything is my fault because I am the healer.

I would skip doing all of this if it wasn't for trying to get geared so I could raid and not have to deal with complete retards and assholes on a daily basis.

Yeah, I'm mad.

[Rafael]

I feel ya, that's why I quit. Save the tough for raids, I do heroics for fun, or if you wanna make them hard, make them like Shattered Halls, the perfect instance imo. You have to know what you're doing and the mobs one-shot non-tanks, but there's not just a random clusterfuck of gimmicks in every fight that will let one person wipe you.

If a dps dies in SH, okay, whatever, keep fighting. Sure, it'll be harder, but it doesn't mean instawipe. Some retard kills the purple trogg near the boss at the start and good luck surviving that without overgearing.

Also: Quit being a noob and wiping in heroics, l2p and get better gear so you can heal through gimmicks, geez =D

[Belle Hibiki]

"Some people that play this game are retards" shouldn't lead to "please nerf content so that retards can do it." That was Wrath, and it was terrible.

And shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit, son. This content is already nerfed to Hell compared to when Cata was first released.

Baron Ashbury? Could cast Mend Rotten Flesh. If you didn't have two people that knew how and what to interrupt when, you were so fucking screwed.

Ozruk? Did a fuckton more damage, Shatter had a shorter cast, knockback was longer range, and didn't have an indicator to where the border was.

Those are the two big ones, but bosses in GENERAL have been nerfed if they were actually threatening/required more than "PUSH BUTAN" level of difficulty. And we got the 15% random dungeon buff on top of that. And several MORE nerfs are heading in on 4.1.

Can Goddamn retards screw shit up for you? Yeah, but that's the price you pay when you play an MMORPG. Best thing you can do is try to explain why they're screwing up in /party. If they don't learn, then /kick them.

Or do guild runs. <3 Guild runs.

[Milk Bubble]

I change my mind, I don't think they should nerf the content. I think the real cause of the problem is that pre-85 you barely learn how to play at all. You never learn about interrupts, CC, or anything that is important max level.

If you started playing WoW right now, and made a new character, I honestly don't think that once you got to 85 you would know any of the important things to know in order to succeed in this game. I honestly think that is the root of all of the problems.

I read a thread on the WoW forums today that was very relevant to this:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2369878776

[Vad]

I change my mind, I don't think they should nerf the content. I think the real cause of the problem is that pre-85 you barely learn how to play at all. You never learn about interrupts, CC, or anything that is important max level.

If you started playing WoW right now, and made a new character, I honestly don't think that once you got to 85 you would know any of the important things to know in order to succeed in this game. I honestly think that is the root of all of the problems.

I read a thread on the WoW forums today that was very relevant to this:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2369878776

That's complete bullshit. If you do ANY sort of PvP you'd quickly learn that CC, and interrupts are important. Especially if you play a rogue. Kick will save a good number of asses in dungeons that allow you to interrupt the boss from casting.

[Milk Bubble]

That's complete bullshit. If you do ANY sort of PvP you'd quickly learn that CC, and interrupts are important. Especially if you play a rogue. Kick will save a good number of asses in dungeons that allow you to interrupt the boss from casting.

But where in the game does it show you or tell you that using CC and interrupts are important?

Right, it doesn't. Other players and other websites tell you that. Meaning, you have to essentially figure it out on your own.

[Vad]

But where in the game does it show you or tell you that using CC and interrupts are important?

Right, it doesn't. Other players and other websites tell you that. Meaning, you have to essentially figure it out on your own.

Tool tips and Spell descriptions.

[Milk Bubble]

Tool tips and Spell descriptions.

So where in this tooltip does it say that interrupting a boss in a heroic is going to help you win the fight?

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=1766

And where in this one does it say that using this ability will help you be able to deal with large mobs more effectively if you use it on one guy to not have to deal with him until later?

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=118


I think you overestimate people's understanding of abilities and when to use them in WoW.

[Ashe]

So where in this tooltip does it say that interrupting a boss in a heroic is going to help you win the fight?

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=1766

And where in this one does it say that using this ability will help you be able to deal with large mobs more effectively if you use it on one guy to not have to deal with him until later?

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=118


I think you overestimate people's understanding of abilities and when to use them in WoW.

So... let me understand this. Your argument is "The tooltips do not specifically tell you a list of every situation to cast the spells in, so they should nerf the content back to aoe grinding all instances"? They can't just say "Interrupts the opponent" and should instead say "Interrupts the opponent's spell, THIS WILL HELP YOU DEFEAT HIM." Or else they should nerf the content to compensate for this.

???