Alcohol, cigarettes, vices

[Psyren]

I used to drink Captain Morgan at my buddies houses during lan partys. I honestly loved it ,it was the first liquor I had ever drank. I used to chase it with Jose Quervo (sp?) (Didnt drink much only had about 2 shots of each).

I prfer beer honestly over hard liqours. My favorite has always been Corona with a littel bit of lime or a few dash's of salt.

As far as cigarettes, Cant stand um. Only smoked Cigars.

Eh im a major light weight lol

[Sigfried Hunin]

A white russian, Sigfriend? Really?

So. Fucking. Good.

PS: You can totally smoke once and a while and not suffer any ill effects. Smoking a few times a year, even like once or twice a month really doesn't have a negative effect on ya...

Also, amphetamines are the way to go Rose.

[Rem-13]

When did it start being cool to smoke again? For most of my teenage years it was always a dirtball thing smoking, but now I hear my 16 year old pseudo-hipster nephew is doing it with his friends and its baffling. Don't get me wrong, he can do what he likes. I'm not judging in a moral sense, but more in the way one judges another in their taste for food.

Fir srs question, what does one get out of cigarettes besides the addiction?

[Alexander Trafford]

Fir srs question, what does one get out of cigarettes besides the addiction?

Lung Cancer

[Vad]

When did it start being cool to smoke again? For most of my teenage years it was always a dirtball thing smoking, but now I hear my 16 year old pseudo-hipster nephew is doing it with his friends and its baffling. Don't get me wrong, he can do what he likes. I'm not judging in a moral sense, but more in the way one judges another in their taste for food.

Fir srs question, what does one get out of cigarettes besides the addiction?

It calms the nerves or so I've been told. I can only assume that's why so so many WWII soldiers smoked.

[Tyr]

When did it start being cool to smoke again? For most of my teenage years it was always a dirtball thing smoking, but now I hear my 16 year old pseudo-hipster nephew is doing it with his friends and its baffling. Don't get me wrong, he can do what he likes. I'm not judging in a moral sense, but more in the way one judges another in their taste for food.

Fir srs question, what does one get out of cigarettes besides the addiction?

It relaxes and calms nerves the first weeks or so you start smoking, then as it becomes more addictive it becomes less effective (hence why you smoke more cigs, to gain the same effect). That's at least what I was told by the doctor and two smokers.

I saw this "in action" personally by watching my grandma who has smoked all her life just going straight cold turkey because she didn't get a kick out of it anymore anyway. My mom unfortunately goes back to it, but she's incredibly polite and goes everything out of her way not to let the smoke harm anyone but herself.

[Jonathan Meer]

It is soothing and mind-clearing. Makes you more alert, but relaxed.

[Jarka]

Not being snarky, but are you sure that's not a correlation, while the relaxation is actually caused by the slow, controlled breating performed while inhaling a cigarette? I find it hard to believe that a stimulant alone would calm a person.

[Vad]

Not being snarky, but are you sure that's not a correlation, while the relaxation is actually caused by the slow, controlled breating performed while inhaling a cigarette? I find it hard to believe that a stimulant alone would calm a person.

Not all stimulants act like stimulants to people. While this probably doesn't relate to Nicotine and Cigarettes it's important to note.

[Jonathan Meer]

Not being snarky, but are you sure that's not a correlation, while the relaxation is actually caused by the slow, controlled breating performed while inhaling a cigarette? I find it hard to believe that a stimulant alone would calm a person.

*shrug*

[Jarka]

Not all stimulants act like stimulants to people. While this probably doesn't relate to Nicotine and Cigarettes it's important to note.

I'm well aware of that, but the overwhelming majority of cigarette smokers seem to say it relaxes them. I'm making a broad leap of logic, but if the chemical and hormonal brain composition of smokers could be assumed to be an accurate representation of the general population, the overwhelming majority of cigarette smokers should be affected by the nicotine as a stimulant.

Just saying, that relaxed mood is probably 50% placebo, 50% meditative breathing.

[Jonathan Meer]

*shrug*?

[Sophia]

I think Jarka's point is largely that if you can achieve the same results without cigarettes, then there's no reason to smoke them. I think, though, that the biggest point is being overlooked here:

Smoking is cool, and everyone knows it.

[Jonathan Meer]

If I could get anything resembling the same effect without smoking, I would.

EDIT: It's been about four weeks since my last cigarette, and three weeks since my last pipe bowl. For perspective.

[Vad]

I enjoy the taste more than anything...

[Sigfried Hunin]

Nicotine has been proven over and over again as a stimulant. The relaxation may be due to the breathing. It's probably a combo of holding your breath.

So Jarka, yeah, I mean, there are some breathing effects, and f COURSE there's a placebo, but you can get like, ALL FUCKED UP on nicotine. I know this because I once went to a hookah bar and had to finish the fuckin bowl cause DAMNED if I'm gonna pay for it and not smoke it... I was sick to my gut and shaky as fuck, got that weird trackign thing with my eyes. Was crazy.

Also, it has like, positive effects in small doses. Like being more alert and relaxed.

[Alexander Trafford]

If I could get anything resembling the same effect without smoking, I would.

EDIT: It's been about four weeks since my last cigarette, and three weeks since my last pipe bowl. For perspective.

Try out a cigar or two, you might enjoy it more.

[Jonathan Meer]

I've tried cigars; they're pretty sweet.

[Vad]

I've tried cigars; they're pretty sweet.

My buddy says cognac dipped cigars are heavenly.

[Psyren]

My buddy says cognac dipped cigars are heavenly.

I have always enjoyed cigars more than a cigarette. Sometimes Ill smoke a King Edward Imperial Natural Petite Corona. They are made by swisher sweets and you can get a box of 50 for 38 dollars. They are pretty darn good.

http://www.thompsoncigar.com/product/CIG...c/9833.uts

You can order countless types of cigars from that site btw available in almost any price range.